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John D
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May 14, 2012
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Nov 2010
· Points: 10
I was climbing at white cliff in 10 mile canyon today, and found a loose block on Zebra. It's not totally detached, but it's loose enough and fragile enough that it spooked me. The block is roughly 16 inches, by 8 inches by 10 inches and it's straight up from where the belayer sits. I don't mind knocking it off, but don't want to do it without some consensus. Should I go pull it off? or leave it? Anybody local want to go have a look at it and give their opinion?
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Bill M
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May 14, 2012
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Fort Collins, CO
· Joined Jun 2010
· Points: 317
Can't speak for the area, but where I climb if it's loose it gets pitched. Provided of course that the coast is clear below.
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Bob Dobalina
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May 15, 2012
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2009
· Points: 140
Trundling is a sure fire way to attract bad juju! Resist the temptation!!
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rob bauer
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May 15, 2012
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Golden, CO
· Joined Dec 2004
· Points: 3,929
If the coast is clear: trundle. Everybody wins. 9 out of 10 times you can't do it due to travel below. Do it when you can.
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1Eric Rhicard
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May 16, 2012
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Tucson
· Joined Feb 2006
· Points: 10,126
Not a local, but if the coast is clear I would trundle it. It was a new concept to me 25 years ago when I climbed with a local here in Tucson who followed me up a route and cleaned on the way. You might save someones life.
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Auto-X Fil
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May 16, 2012
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NEPA and Upper Jay, NY
· Joined Aug 2010
· Points: 50
Just be damn sure nobody is below, and scream "rock" for a while before you let it rip.
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chris tregge
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May 16, 2012
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Madison WI
· Joined May 2007
· Points: 11,036
Trundle but be sure you anticipate any rock bounce. My belayer and I learned that the hard way long ago then I trundled a rock about the size you describe from near the anchors on a sport climb, and when it hit the ground it exploded. The largest piece then ricocheted in an unexpected direction, nearly hitting my belayer (who was crouching under a little overhang off to the side of the start of the climb).
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Tristan Burnham
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May 16, 2012
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La Crescenta, CA
· Joined Oct 2009
· Points: 2,176
Trundle, but only if you film it.
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Jon OBrien
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May 16, 2012
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Nevada
· Joined Apr 2009
· Points: 917
protect your rope as well... heavy rock cauterizes and slices rope in half really easily
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Shane Neal
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May 16, 2012
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Colorado Springs, CO.
· Joined Mar 2002
· Points: 265
Trundle. Smartly and SAFELY.
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Taylor-B.
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May 16, 2012
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Valdez, AK
· Joined Oct 2009
· Points: 3,186
Make sure the trundel doesn't damage any of the bolts on the route.
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Kevin DeWeese
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May 16, 2012
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@failfalling - Oakland, Ca
· Joined Jan 2007
· Points: 981
Tristan B wrote:Trundle, but only if you film it. +1 and post. pix or it didn't happen
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John D
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May 16, 2012
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Nov 2010
· Points: 10
Ok, I will get out there and send it down, and I'll do my best to shoot some video and post it up. It shouldn't be too hard to hike around and rap down, thanks for the tip though about the rock hurting the rope, I'd be above the block, but I'll make sure to pull up my rope before I send it.
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TresSki Roach
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May 16, 2012
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Santa Fe, NM
· Joined May 2002
· Points: 605
Do it at night and watch the sparks fly! Just don't set anything on fire. :-)
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Mike Lane
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May 16, 2012
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AnCapistan
· Joined Jan 2006
· Points: 880
I'm pretty sure that there's enough trees to prevent it from making it onto I-70, but that should be you're main concern; and then doing it w/out jacking something else up. If you do it right, you'll get a good blast of ozone smell. A good trundle releases a lot of energy, which can cause the rock to do unexpected things. This is a relatively small one though.
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