rope drag is a drag

Trolls are a drag! It's just part of life gotta deal with trolls, gotta deal with rope drag. As NAS put it so eloquently " lifes a bitch and the u die".

Ryan N wrote:Trolls are a drag! It's just part of life gotta deal with trolls, gotta deal with rope drag. As NAS put it so eloquently " lifes a bitch and the u die".

Sweet baby Jesus we made it in America! ;)

there's an easy way to avoid rope drag on 4th class scrambles. don't do them roped up. and, if you're going to drag the rope behind you on a scramble, expect quite a lot of rope drag.

I keep asking Mr. Stone to drag me up on Castleton ;)

I would add two things-

1)After you place each piece and pass it(5' above maybe) check to see what the rope is doing. Often if will catch on something inadvertently but you can clean it up with a little rope flick.
2) Think of the climb in 3 dimensions, not 2. Try to avoid placements where the climb cuts in (directly below roofs is an obvious example).

Indian Creek! Problem solved, usually.

1Eric Rhicard wrote:Indian Creek! Problem solved, usually.

Im not strong enough climber for most of the creek btw its almost getting too hot anyway so banished to front range for the most part ( tough life) im taking all the tips I can. A troll is a troll is a troll but this thread is helpful. I think I troll involuntarily now haha!

Wow buddy what do you have against spot climbers and bouldering (both have hepled my trad game)? Trad, sport, and bouldering are all types of climbing have some respect. And It is possible to create rope drag on a bolted climb, some spot climber may have some advice that could help you. So How were you introduced to climbing? It sound like you haven't been climbing trad that long.

Are you just someone that wants to turn this sport into something like surfing? Where nearly every one in the water thinks they are just to cool to speak to one another. And there is some dumb conflict between long boarding and short boarding.

Yea I don't talk to boulders cos bouldering is bad for my ankles, I don't talk to sport climbers cos all they wanna do is project and someone to bitch belay them, I only talk to trad climbers cos they got the best epics to share and moderate long routes are up my alley and the gear just plain kicks a$s! I don't talk to non climbers at all.

I have to admit, you're annoying enough that I'd probably avoid helping you in an emergency.

ok im not instigating this. Thank you for all the helpful tips and yes i do sport climb and even the unspeakable: .....here it goes....gym climb! every type of climbing makes you a better overall climber. But I don't boulder and dont talk to non climbers its true. no disrespect yo all.

muttonface wrote: That's good. You should also avoid talking to pillows, doghouses, telephone poles, spare tires and ice cream cones. A good rule of thumb is any inanimate object shouldn't be talked to. It does little good to change their behavior if it is indeed undesirable. One exception I can think of is a walkie talkie.

Mutton,

I like it! There is, indeed, a difference between a boulder and a boulderer.

"That's mighty bolder talk for a one-eyed fat man." :)

Don't link pitches.
Add more belays in traversing sections.
Back clean gear when possible.
Place fewer pieces.

a good trick I learned is to scope out a straight line from start to anchors before i start climbing. when I place a piece I pull out the draw or sling towards my imaginary straight line. if it doesnt reach I extend.

another thing I see many people doing is their belayer standing away from the base of the route. this puts a zig in your line and adds friction, and will also add stress to your first piece if you whip. make em stand as close to directly under that piece as possible.

Elena Sera Jose wrote:i mostly boulder but would like a comfortable shoe to do sport climbing especially overhangs and cracks. im trying to get into tradding this summer too. what are the fallbacks of an all around climbing shoe? P.S. any feedback will be appreciated. thank you. Edit: thank you all for your advice I can't wait to go to REI and try some shoes on. I also heard you can return them any time too even after using them outside for a while! That's great! Thanx again.

Here's the link

Sooooooooo, how do explain THIS one Elena...errrr I mean Elenor!?
This was your FIRST post---Jeez, how did I not spot you earlier? It's not like you're even that GOOD of a troll...you are Blindingly obvious...I feel like an Idiot!

Why do you insist on wasting everyone's time here?
I noticed you posted your first post of today at like 6:00am!! --Don't you have a life?? If so, it must not be that interesting. Sorry.

Arent you supposed to be like a 'nurse' or something? Why arent you out saving people--instead of wasting space and annoying the hell out of people?

Anyway,
Sorry MP for feeding......IT!
I don't usually get involved with this crap but DAMN!!!. . where can one go these days for a "civil" conversation?

...carry on.

Elena Sera Jose wrote:ok im not instigating this.

sure you are. How many accounts do you have?

Is this turning into another Eleanor-bashing thread? I need to keep up with the latest hate!

Andrew Haag wrote: Once your racked up tied in and on belay, stop, dont even chalk yet. Remove more than half the pieces you have on your rack, grab twice the amount of slings you have. Make every clip with at least 6 feet of webbing and space them at least 25 feet or more between placements. If this doesnt work to your satisfaction then nothing will.

Oh I will be right on that! Thank you so much!

SendaGorilla wrote: Here's the link Sooooooooo, how do explain THIS one Elena...errrr I mean Elenor!? This was your FIRST post---Jeez, how did I not spot you earlier? It's not like you're even that GOOD of a troll...you are Blindingly obvious...I feel like an Idiot! Why do you insist on wasting everyone's time here? I noticed you posted your first post of today at like 6:00am!! --Don't you have a life?? If so, it must not be that interesting. Sorry. Arent you supposed to be like a 'nurse' or something? Why arent you out saving people--instead of wasting space and annoying the hell out of people? Anyway, Sorry MP for feeding......IT! I don't usually get involved with this crap but DAMN!!!. . where can one go these days for a "civil" conversation? ...carry on.

Chikki paw paw

On serious note : thank you all! Whoever that Elanor is she is funny too. Peace! !! Climbing rocks!!!!