Dear Robbers Roost Chain Chopper,
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Just curious who the d bag is who chopped all the fixed chains from all the lower halves of almost every route at Robbers Roost (specifically the Robbery Wall)? Curiously, you neglected to remove the chains from the extensions and higher pitches. Was this a mere oversight, or were you just too lazy to stick clip any higher to steal? |
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SethR wrote:d bagIt's a shame you started out with this in your post. I would guess that no meaningful dialogue will happen with this as your initial statement. |
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David Sahalie wrote: nope. people who steal chains and lowering biners are douche bags. plain and simple. big problem in new mexico too.I'm not commenting on the type of person that would take chains from routes. I just think it is silly to start out with name calling and then ask for them back. |
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Darren in Vegas wrote: I'm not commenting on the type of person that would take chains from routes. I just think it is silly to start out with name calling and then ask for them back.Pretty silly if you think that was ever the real intent of this post. |
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SethR wrote:d bag...please be kind to return it or replace it.just taking this at face value. |
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Darren in Vegas wrote: just taking this at face value.I don't actually expect the equipment to be returned, nor any meaningful dialogue, as that would be an admittance of error on the thief's part. Hence, the "d bag" terminology and for further reference, a concise definition of said thief, aka d bag: "The term d bag/douchebag generally refers to a male with a certain combination of obnoxious characteristics related to attitude, social ineptitude, public behavior or outward presentation." Seems pretty accurate. |
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SethR wrote: I don't actually expect the equipment to be returned, nor any meaningful dialogue, as that would be an admittance of error on the thief's part. Hence, the "d bag" terminology and for further reference, a concise definition of said thief, aka d bag: "The term d bag/douchebag generally refers to a male with a certain combination of obnoxious characteristics related to attitude, social ineptitude, public behavior or outward presentation." Seems pretty accurate.I would say that if you were interested in putting new chains back up, this type of rhetoric is only going to start the Great Chain Wars of 2012. Hopefully through internet name calling we can have our own version of the Bolt Wars of the 90's. I personally like the convenience of the chains, but dislike the crowds they bring. It seems everytime I went there when they were up, it just invited hour long hang dog sessions on the warm ups. I would say next time, epoxy the threads on the quicklinks and this will be less of a problem. If we can't outsmart the d-bags, who can we outsmart? By the way...is that a Merriam-Webster definition? |
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I'm glad to here that that someone around the Las Vegas metro area is beginning to correct the injustices of the past. |
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Mike J. wrote:. I don't feel than a member of the climbing community has the right to unilaterally make a decision that affects not only climbers but everyone who uses the area.I think it is odd that you would say this since the person who took the draws did this exact thing. |
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@Mike J |
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Sometimes I truly enjoy being a jerk and violating Guideline #1, especially after a few gin & tonics at the end of a hot day in the desert. Most of the drivel on this forum isn't worth weighing in on, but every once in awhile, I can't resist. |
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Mark- |
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Darren in Vegas wrote:Mark- you made my morning. hope the G&Ts were tasty.+1 |
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The Dread Pirate Killis wrote: Seth, this is no news to anyone, but some of those chains weren't appreciated by the people who bolted the routes in the first place...We all figured it would not be long before you reared your ugly head and piped in regarding this issue, as you have so eloquently in the past. In my mad, name calling fit of rage of an initial post, I actually considered you could be a candidate for the blatant d baggery. Alas, though, surely even you are getting too old for these sorts of shenanigans, no? So I figured it'd be better to cast the net elsewhere and see what rubbish collects. On a serious note though. You refer to the FA individuals being distraught regarding chains being hung on "their" routes. I wonder why this is the case. Do these individuals have dominion over these routes In perpetuum? Do these same individuals get angry when their bad bolts, bad anchors, loose holds or choss they left sitting on a ledge gets dealt with? I think not. While I appreciate the hard work and labor that is involved in putting up routes (of which, I have done in my younger/dumber years), these individuals are certainly not oblivious to the fact that someone else would've done the exact same a week, month, or year later had they not. We are not talking a piece of art here (while some of the handiwork creating these routes may be considered artwork by some, but I digress). I should add that some of the chains were removed from routes that were established by the individuals who installed the chains. What, pray tell, is the logic behind that? Do tell. The sport has evolved, as should you and all the other crusty old timers that cling to their EB's and socks, figure 8's, carpet instead of crash pads, Grateful Dead instead of house music, and whining about all the damn kids at Kraft these days. Because honestly, very few give a shit about the old days and old ways buddy. And with that, I shall exit stage left from this topic and return to 8a.nu for more refreshing, civilized, intellectual banter. Xoxo |
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CJC wrote:lol internet sure makes it easy to make an ass of yourself+2 |
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Ahh the famed "vegas climbing community" is still at it. Nice to see all is still the same. |
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I believe the chain robber is actually Tony Horton, taking your silly crutches away to force you to hold on tighter and longer to make the clip. Try it for 90 days! |
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SethR wrote:The Las Vegas climbing community would greatly appreciate it if you could return the stolen property to where you pilfered it from SethR wrote:I don't actually expect the equipment to be returned, nor any meaningful dialogueSo you just wanted to cry about it on the Internet? Congratulations. Mission accomplished. Moving on.. SethR wrote:The sport has evolved, as should you and all the other crusty old timers that cling to their...Grateful Dead instead of house music...Now you've crossed the line. People have been listening to the Dead long before house music was even created. And they will be listening to the Dead long after people realize that house music is garbage. :) |
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I'll just cling to my guns and religion thank you |
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Bahahaha! This thread is comical. |
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Rob Fielding wrote: Seth, i'm sorry your perma-draws got chopped, would you like a tissue? :)Nah, no tissue, they weren't my perma draws. Thanks though. Just glad to see all you crusty ol' tradsters still get fired up and passionate about nonsense. Good job slamming all that new steel into Redd Roxx, you guys are the true heroes... |