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BD Raven Pro v. CAMP Corsa

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Mark Wyss · · Denver, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 255

Just wondering if the Corsa had any advantages (besides the significant weight difference) when compared to the Raven Pro. I'm going to assume that the Raven Pro is pretty solid.

Thoughts or experiences with either axe would help. Looking to get one for xmas.

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276

The Corsa is fine for self-arrest but the head is too light to get any purchase in firm snow or ice with the pick. So if you need an ax to swing at all or to use in dagger position, I don't think the Corsa is the best choice.

Merlin · · Grand Junction · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 10

I'm not a fan of either. The lightweight craze goes too far in some circumstances. Try getting purchase in 2 feet of powder with solid ice underneath with either and you'll be unhappy. Either spend twice as much on an ergonomically designed axe with low weight or go with a beefy but half the price Omega Pacific type axe omegapac.com/op_alpine_axes… and be safer. I've never been on snow with the BD Raven Pro that I wouldn't have felt just as comfortable on as I would have with a pair of trekking poles.

Just my two cents but those BDs are wastes of money IMHO. I've had them and sold them.

Steve Williams · · The state of confusion · Joined Jul 2005 · Points: 235

Get the Raven instead of the Raven Pro.

If you need to chop ice for a tent site, the pro is much
too light to do the job. My Raven was great for that on
Denali.

Muzaffer · · Turkey · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 0
Steve Williams wrote:Get the Raven instead of the Raven Pro. If you need to chop ice for a tent site, the pro is much too light to do the job. My Raven was great for that on Denali.
+1
I agree with Steve Williams. I use BD raven and I m so satisfied.
Bang Nhan · · Charlottesville, VA · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 35

Yeah I ended buying the Raven instead of the Raven Pro just because many others saying it's too light to chop step comparing to the original Raven version! Also, the spike of the Raven Pro is not as sharp as the Raven, so that may cause some trouble when one tries to penetrate some ice!

Kip Kasper · · Bozeman, MT · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 200

tools without a steel spike are useless. If you can get away with one of the aluminum slanted spike axes you're better off just using trekking poles.

coldfinger · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 55

Got the NanoTech Corsa and LOVE it, very sweet rig, performs well.

fossana · · leeds, ut · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 13,318

I have a Corsa I use for lightweight snow/glacier travel (e.g. summer alpine rock season), but for anything more serious my Grivel Air Tech Racing axe has served me well for 10+ years.

harpo-the-climber · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 300

CF, can you comment further how and in what sort of conditions you have used the Corsa Nanotech? I have one I use for ski mountaineering in the Sierra but so far I have only used it for self belay going up steep snow chutes.

coldfinger · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 55
harpo-the-climber wrote:CF, can you comment further how and in what sort of conditions you have used the Corsa Nanotech? I have one I use for ski mountaineering in the Sierra but so far I have only used it for self belay going up steep snow chutes.
Yep, when I am not inclined to bring crampons especially it has provided a great measure of security for very little weight. Am now sold on the slight curve in the shaft as well--makes for much better swing and grip whether held at the head or bottom.

It is not an ice tool, but it is a technical mountaineering tool, pick and spike are very sharp, and penetrate well.

The big thing is I have gone with the 50cm length, which has really worked out well as it is the perfect length for steep and scary slopes and i use poles on anything else anyway.
coldfinger · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 55

And I did get rid of a 65cm Raven Pro in favor of the 50cm Corsa Nanotech.

nick frazee · · bozeman, MT · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 115

corsa is nice light, but more often than not quite useless. its more of the kind of axe you won if you own a quiver of axes. if you want to have just one axe go with the bd. The raven pro is the way to go unless you PLAN to do a lot of chopping.....who chops steps these days anyway? not me

drpw · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 0

corsa nanotech is awesome but for a first/only axe id go raven. if you're close to competent on snow/ice then go the nanotech with xlc crampons (if your on all snow. stick with steel if your gonna be on rock.) and watch your buddies melt with jealousy when your spiky stuff weighs less then half of what theirs does.

Kevin · · California · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 0

I have a Corsa. It's a lightweight aluminum axe, so it comes along when I'm tempted to not take anything over the summer.

These are totally different tools, IMO. The Raven (Pro) is a true mountaineer's tool, a classic piolet, lightweight, and true to its function under all conditions. The Corsa is a lightweight tool, more something a hiker would use, only worth using on melting snow.

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