Gear4Rocks 1axle Cam Set of Six Review

If you look at the range of the cams compared to the WC and BD, it seems like you would have gaping holes in the "usable" range.

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Who ever said stronger metal doesn't make a difference?

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I'd be willing to give the CE certified G4R cams a shot.

Thomas G Clark wrote: Thanks for that. Makes me feel a little better after the work that I put into this review. On their website gear4rocks say: "As part of the gear4rocks quality control, each device is loaded to half of its maximum rating. Before it leaves the factory each device is reinspected to ensure that all components are working appropriately" If it is true that the cams they sent me were inspected, then how could the cam get in the state that it was? I admit that when I received them I was worried about climbing with them. Anyway they load the cams to half their strength rating, apparently.

Honestly, I'd rather run it out above a girth hitched petrified turd than a cam that showed up assembled incorrectly.

How could they have loaded it to half of its rated strength without noticing that it was assembled wrong? It also makes their "each device is reinspected to ensure that all components are working" claim impossible to believe.

Kevin Kent wrote:...I'd be willing to give the CE certified G4R cams a shot.

Outside of some kind of morbid curiosity, I am truly curious as to why?

As alluded before, if they truly inspect every one of their cams, how did the misassembly get missed? And there is no possible way they tested the misassembled cam, so then that begs the question, do they actual inspect and test their cams or just say that they do?

Kevin Kent wrote:Who ever said stronger metal doesn't make a difference? I'd be willing to give the CE certified G4R cams a shot.

How did that happen?

Evan Sanders wrote:As alluded before, if they truly inspect every one of their cams, how did the misassembly get missed? And there is no possible way they tested the misassembled cam, so then that begs the question, do they actual inspect and test their cams or just say that they do?

Valid point. I have addressed with gear4rocks and I'm now waiting for their response, which should be interesting.

-sp wrote: Outside of some kind of morbid curiosity, I am truly curious as to why?

Why not? To my knowledge no one has ever experienced catastrophic failure of a G4R cam. I wouldn't make them my primary cams, and I'd probably only use them when I have other gear too. But if I tried them and thought they were worth it I might get some to have triples or something in some sizes for Indian Creek and similar places.

Thomas G Clark wrote: How did that happen?

It was a pretty normal fall onto a somewhat constricting sandstone crack. It was the first day the cam was used if i recall correctly.

I don't understand why folks buy stuff like this. Yes there's the cost argument, BUT one can find top shelf cams USED here on MP for the same cost or quite often less.

Kevin I'm not suprised to see that bent up cam from you. Awesome. I remember watching you climb barn burner at redwing, running it out and whipping on gear placed in that shit rock thinking this kid is fucking crazy! a normal fall to you may be farther than to most, did you send it back to BD.

fat cow wrote:Kevin I'm not suprised to see that bent up cam from you. Awesome. I remember watching you climb barn burner at redwing, running it out and whipping on gear placed in that shit rock thinking this kid is fucking crazy! a normal fall to you may be farther than to most, did you send it back to BD.

I'm not sure if that comment was praise or passing judgment?
I wish I could say I was responsible for the fall that fugged that #3, but alas it was my friend; I wasn't even belaying. I can assure you though that it was not a super crazy fall. I would estimate he fell 8 feet (very max of 10') including rope stretch, with about 20 meters of rope in the system, with the cam placed properly.

Anyways do I know you? I remember that day at red wing, good times. That part of barn bluff probably has the best rock, the cam and nut placements are pretty solid, it really isn't that scary of a lead. I can assure you that most of my falls are nowhere near that large.

gear4rocks have now let me know that they checked their cams twice before sending to me, so the damaged cam had been damaged in the post.

Thomas G Clark wrote:...the damaged cam had been damaged in the post.

Wait.. it was assembled correctly but the lobes jumped the lobe stop during shipment? Just curious; what condition was the box in?

muttonface wrote: You didn't say it was damaged. You said it was assembled incorrectly. Someone's full of shit. And I don't think it's you. Maybe they should stick to plastic nuts.

Really. How can a company like this even exist? A bunch of fucking idiots - I truly hope they go belly up before someone gets hurt.

Daryl Allan wrote: Wait.. it was assembled correctly but the lobes jumped the lobe stop during shipment? Just curious; what condition was the box in?

They sent me the cams in a bubble wrap coated envelope (jiffy bag).......

Thomas G Clark wrote:...One of the cams arrived with two of the lobes incorrectly positioned on the axle. The little stem thingy that prevents the lobes closing too far was the wrong way round...

This review should've started and ended with that. I can't believe you were willing to climb on them after you saw that.

Thomas G Clark wrote: They sent me the cams in a bubble wrap coated envelope (jiffy bag).......

First of all Thomas, thank you for being so resilient and sticking with responding to [sometimes harsh] comments on your review. I have to commend you for sticking with it and not getting discouraged. I also commend you for having the courage to climb on those cams given the condition you received them in. You're a much braver man than myself.

That being said, I can only assume you realize your G4R contact is either outright lying or in grave denial and that you are attempting to remain as neutral as possible given your position as an impartial reviewer. Either way, you have given the MP community, at least, a real-world image of G4R as a manufacturer as well as a customer service entity. That much was more than worth your time.

Now that being said, I can't say that i was ever intrigued to the point of being a potential customer of theirs. However this information has given me (and perhaps others?) the insight to not only not purchase their products but also to not use them on my rack should I ever partner up with someone that uses them.

Thanks for your effort.

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