Man Vs Wild.... Are Homo Sapiens the best physically endowed climbing species around? (mammalian)

I've heard that Homo Sapeiens are perhaps the best ultra long distance runners on the planet, how about best Rock Climbers on the planet? Kinda a silly question, but mental/technical abilites aside, do you think a chimp, smaller monkey, or some other mammal could pull down, say a 5.16? Curious to hear what yall think...

Well I dunno about climbing, but I think I'm the best endowed...period

Could Muhammed Ali have beaten Joe Louis? I'm sure he would have beaten Mike Tyson...

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amazing one handed swing dynos...

I once saw a chipmonk free solo FA 5.14 link up, downclimb halfway, then change routs and top out

You have obviously never seen a monkey. "Mental/technical abilities aside," humans are about the least athletic beings on the planet.

Humans are the only creatures that climb only for mere sport, though this could be argued.
As long as several species of monkeys have a reason to climb, such as a banana positioned as bait, they can pull down at the 5.27(or greater) level.
I saw a video once (Boston Zoo?) where the architects designing the faux stone enclosure of the primate cage and hired their "expert" human climber to see if they could climb out of the enclosure. The human was shut down. The monkey, however, floated the route to get to the banana that they thought was unobtainable.
I've seen chipmunks run across huge roofs that are apparently devoid of any features and unusable to homo sapiens.
I've seen a spider monkey do a vertical launch from a one arm dead hang about ten feet to a higher branch.
Let's not even mention insects since, if I recall correctly, the original posted was limiting their inquiry to mammals.

What? Hamsters again! What is it with you and hamsters?!?

besides, ever heard the expression "any monkey can place a bolt"?

Monkeys and Lemurs are far better climbers than humans. As are squirrels and lizards and spiders.

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Grant Gerhard wrote: I've heard that Homo Sapeiens are perhaps the best ultra long distance runners on the planet

I don't know what dumbass told you that. Horses, dogs, ostriches, camels, antelope, etc. are all better long distance runners

Evan Sanders wrote: I don't know what dumbass told you that. Horses, dogs, ostriches, camels, antelope, etc. are all better long distance runners

No. A human can outrun a dog, horse or antelope in anything over the marathon distance. Any avid ultra runner with a canine companion can attest to their lack of endurance.

ever try to sleep at night when those hampsters are running in circles on that squeaky wheel? Non stop, go go go!

grayhghost wrote: No. A human can outrun a dog, horse or antelope in anything over the marathon distance. Any avid ultra runner with a canine companion can attest to their lack of endurance.

Wolves have been known to go over 120 miles in a day, truckin'.

JesseT wrote: Wolves have been known to go over 120 miles in a day, truckin'.

In 1831, Mensen Ernst ran from Paris to Moscow in 13 days, averaging over 120 miles a day to win a 3800 franc bet that he couldn't do it in less than 15 days. I am sure other distance runners have since matched this accomplishment.

johnL wrote:http://www.speedofanimals.com/animals/pronghorn So if I'm in a race with an animal that can run 45mph for 3-5 hours a day, every single day of it's life, how long do I have to live to outrun it? Edited to add. I have run a marathon in 3:30 and a half in 1:30. Assuming a nonstop type of running pace, I don't expect to be able to average better than 13 minute miles.

But the question is can it run at 7 mph for 20 hours in the hot sun? Many people have proven that a human can run an antelope to exhaustion by keeping a single antelope separated from the herd and forcing it to keep running away. There is a book about a guy that learns to do it.

David Sahalie wrote: I am not sure where you get this info.

Daniel Lieberman at Harvard has done the most study on the subject.
It comes down to overheating for most animals, because humans are rare in their ability to sweat they can keep going longer.

Persistence hunting has also been studied at the University of Utah.

David Sahalie wrote: I am not sure where you get this info.

Google turned THIS up for me in less than half a second and "Why We Run" by Bernd Heinrich does a pretty good job of making you look like an idiot as well.

David Sahalie wrote:my cattle dog/border collie regularly runs marathon distances with me, and he can do it literally running circles around me. he needs hydration, but then so do I. the point that is being missed is the human frontal lobe that endures a lack of immediate reward for a future goal. wolves are the only animal has evolved to approach this level of intellegence, and therefore will track prey over huge distances.

That's a really nice story Dave, unfortunately it is you that is missing the point. (And the facts) I'd suggest the work of Barry Lopez if you'd like to get some learnin in that frontal lobe of your's.

David Sahalie wrote:any chimp would have the physical genetics to crush any human climbing grade. we devolved from chimps in the climbing sense. i think you guys are refering to chipmunks, not hamsters. never heard of a wild hamster.

You don't have a strong grasp on the concept of evolution do you?

Here's another thing to keep in mind. Many of the arguments for humans being better long distance runners are comparing the freaks of nature to the average animal. Sure a couple people can probably run 120 miles a day over 10+ days, sure some people can run 7 mph for 20 hours. But can YOU?

Compare the average Arabian horse to the average human. Who do you think wins in a long distance race? I'd put my life savings that the Arabian would win.

I think what you are failing to comprehend mister yarp is that although a few exceptional humans are able to perform on a level with animals......all animals of said breeds perform at top levels. we overall suck as a species. fat fucks don't climb or run.....

edit: well played evan and you type faster than my dog!