Fixed draws, really?

Yeah dude. Really. It's a roof and would be impossible to clean. We don't go to J-Tree and start bitching about your ethics. Show us the same courtesy.

Edit to add: Not that I had anything to do with putting it up; just that I resent your bitching.

I was one of three of the FA. The draws were put on the route later on by someone else. It was not impossible to clean with out fixed draws, just really took some work.

I think there was a really young girl (11 yrs old?) working on the route after we did it...The draws showed up around then. I am sure she could not reach bolt to bolt to clean it. We bolted it off pins nailed into the flake.

Luke