Isn't top roping the same as sport climbing?

Congratulations, the pussification of climbing is complete.

shuminW wrote: There really is nothing subtle about his homophobic comments: and more specifically it usually doesn't include a bunch of hard-ons who will do anything to make it easier and more convenient while at the same time measuring their cock size with an arbitrary number based on how hard the climbing is

That's homophobic?

shuminW wrote: If that's all top ropers can do then they probably deserve getting made fun of. Personally, I don't care too much about whether a sport route is led or top roped, but somebody has to put the rope up for a TR, which, other than at your little pond, is often more efficiently accomplished by leading than scrambling to the top (if at all possible). And for most routes I care to project, it's more annoying to top rope than to lead. Of course, as a weakass tradie, you wouldn't understand projecting anyway. It's not that stronger climbers' opinion matter just because they are stronger (though there is truth to that as well), but because they are usually the ones that understands and have invested the effort to get stronger. As for PD, of course a lot of it is for convenience, like you haven't done anything to make your climbing more convenient. And for all the little conveniences, these guys try way harder than you. There's also the fact that for many sport routes, bolts are placed convenient to clip with a pre-placed draw, not placing draws as you are leading. Finally, who cares what you think is acceptable or not.

How would you know I don't try hard? There's plenty of people out there that try really hard on 5.8, why so hard? Cause that's their limit!

I don't write people off or put them down because they don't climb hard I put them down because they are lazy assholes. I'm not hating on sport climbers or sport climbing here (well, maybe a little), just the climbers with the "I'm better than you" attitude.

And the homophobic comment? Please, if just putting "cock" in a sentence is homophobic my gay friends got some serious problems.

Trad Ninja wrote: How would you know I don't try hard? There's plenty of people out there that try really hard on 5.8, why so hard? Cause that's their limit! I don't write people off or put them down because they don't climb hard I put them down because they are lazy assholes. I'm not hating on sport climbers or sport climbing here (well, maybe a little), just the climbers with the "I'm better than you" attitude. And the homophobic comment? Please, if just putting "cock" in a sentence is homophobic my gay friends got some serious problems.

If one person tells you your a donkey, fuck it, your probably not one. If two people call you a donkey, they might be jealous, screw them, get on with your life. When four pages of people call you a donkey, and you take the time to actually respond to those posts yet remain obstinant, you are for sure a jack ass. Good Job Nick, you have humiliated the other climbers in your state by association.

By the way, the reason why people who are better than you have attitudes that reflect they think that is because they are better than you and they do know more than you. I know reality must hurt, but you gotta let it in someday. I can only weep for the hard-core trad from Wisconsin who thinks he knows it all. Wow. Amazing.

JohnnyQ = nippleit = essay

My guess, anyway.

Johny Q wrote: If one person tells you your a donkey, fuck it, your probably not one. If two people call you a donkey, they might be jealous, screw them, get on with your life. When four pages of people call you a donkey, and you take the time to actually respond to those posts yet remain obstinant, you are for sure a jack ass. Good Job Nick, you have humiliated the other climbers in your state by association. By the way, the reason why people who are better than you have attitudes that reflect they think that is because they are better than you and they do know more than you. I know reality must hurt, but you gotta let it in someday. I can only weep for the hard-core trad from Wisconsin who thinks he knows it all. Wow. Amazing.

So much rage...

EdAsh wrote:greetings, Joe is a gental Bad Ass,,, meaning he could easily kick our collective asses, but he wouldn't...

Yeah! Don't make me come down there!

Zeke wrote: Actually, Joe is pretty close, but if I were him I wouldn't argue with a man who pee pees on young women.

Wha...?!?!Maybe that's why my donkey sense was tingling.

Johny Q wrote: If one person tells you your a donkey, fuck it, your probably not one. ..... I can only weep for the hard-core trad from Wisconsin who thinks he knows it all. Wow. Amazing.

Dude-this festering anger can't be good for you. (kinda makes me nauseous as well)But, what really is disturbing is your writing "style". You don't understand the difference between "your" and "you're", for crying out loud.Have you ever read a book?

Johny Q wrote: If one person tells you your a donkey, fuck it, your probably not one. If two people call you a donkey, they might be jealous, screw them, get on with your life. When four pages of people call you a donkey, and you take the time to actually respond to those posts yet remain obstinant, you are for sure a jack ass. Good Job Nick, you have humiliated the other climbers in your state by association. By the way, the reason why people who are better than you have attitudes that reflect they think that is because they are better than you and they do know more than you. I know reality must hurt, but you gotta let it in someday. I can only weep for the hard-core trad from Wisconsin who thinks he knows it all. Wow. Amazing.

i think the point here is that retardninja likes to be abused. some sort of self-esteem issue probably. 4 pages of people telling him he's a jackass is just a good start. he couldn't really be so stupid as to believe the drivel in his OP. everyone knows that toproping and sport climbing are different things, except maybe at devil's lake, where trad climbing is toproping, too. i think everything there is toproping, isn't it?

Joe Huggins wrote: Yeah! Don't make me come down there! Wha...?!?!Maybe that's why my donkey sense was tingling. Dude-this festering anger can't be good for you. (kinda makes me nauseous as well)But, what really is disturbing is your writing "style". You don't understand the difference between "your" and "you're", for crying out loud.Have you ever read a book?

Wow Joe, it's impressive to see that you get so offended by my grammatical mistakes but not so by self-proclaimed trolls. Sorry I didn't take the time to proof-read my bull shit rant, I am so glad you did. To be honest, your attacks on my spelling show a very simple mind possessing a narrow view that is missing the entire point. I am not angry, try as you may. Good day to you, sir Huggins.

Johny Q wrote: ... my gramatical mistakes ...

You misspelled grammatical. Just saying...

shuminW wrote: Because if you did you would've had some respect for those who dedicate themselves to becoming good climbers, regardless of whether they clip bolts, plug gears or carry a pad.

Owie. Sounds like someone needs to change their pad. And Johny Q too.

Johny Q wrote: Wow Joe, it's impressive to see that you get so offended by my grammatical mistakes but not so by self-proclaimed trolls. Sorry I didn't take the time to proof-read my bull shit rant, I am so glad you did. To be honest, your attacks on my spelling show a very simple mind possessing a narrow view that is missing the entire point. I am not angry, try as you may. Good day to you, sir Huggins.

Johnny Quest was probably the best cartoon ever. Too bad you lack his qualities. Hiding behind the anonymous cowardice of a pseudonym without any accountability is juvenile; the fact that you keep puking this bullshit up is what offends me,Jackass. As for my simple minded, narrow view; people who know me would find that pretty ludicrous.
I have a suggestion-Fuck Yourself, Jackass; but be sure to use protection, we have enough useless tools already.Eat shit and die, douche.

Joe Huggins wrote: Johnny Quest was probably the best cartoon ever. Too bad you lack his qualities. Hiding behind the anonymous cowardice of a pseudonym without any accountability is juvenile; the fact that you keep puking this bullshit up is what offends me,Jackass. As for my simple minded, narrow view; people who know me would find that pretty ludicrous. I have a suggestion-Fuck Yourself, Jackass; but be sure to use protection, we have enough useless tools already.Eat shit and die, douche.

Easy Huggins. I love you man, just take it easy.

Hank Caylor wrote: Easy Huggins. I love you man, just take it easy.

Sorry,dude. I know you see my point, though.

I see your point Joe, I just don't want our privelege to use some "colorful" language on MP to become hindered by any fighting over this mostly goofball topic.

JLP wrote:It seems like a few intelligent and experienced posters need to go over to RC.com to sharpen up their internet forum wankery skills before dueling with the OP (and possibly each other). At the moment, he owns your asses.

Kinda stinky-he can have it.

Joe Huggins wrote: Johnny Quest was probably the best cartoon ever. Too bad you lack his qualities. Hiding behind the anonymous cowardice of a pseudonym without any accountability is juvenile; the fact that you keep puking this bullshit up is what offends me,Jackass. As for my simple minded, narrow view; people who know me would find that pretty ludicrous. I have a suggestion-Fuck Yourself, Jackass; but be sure to use protection, we have enough useless tools already.Eat shit and die, douche.

My My My. And who is the angry one? Guess we found out why you have such viseral reacitons to my posts, deep down your an angry person, kinda like the pot calling the kettle black. The fact that you exist offends me, just kidding, it is kinda juvinal saying stuff like that, huh, Mr. Huggins?

JLP wrote:It seems like a few intelligent and experienced posters need to go over to RC.com to sharpen up their internet forum wankery skills before dueling with the OP (and possibly each other). At the moment, he owns your asses.

Meh. Having been there and done that, I know it's pretty easy to rule a roost of brand nubians and bored office workers.

I don't see much of the pwnage going on, just a half-cocked troll in a crooked mini skirt. Feel free to continue your own wank, however, I am open minded and realize that tastes vary.

Johny Q wrote: My My My. And who is the angry one? Guess we found out why you have such viseral reacitons to my posts, deep down your an angry person, kinda like the pot calling the kettle black. The fact that you exist offends me, just kidding, it is kinda juvinal saying stuff like that, huh, Mr. Huggins?

You remain anonymous, demonstrating a lack of integrity and accountability. I can't say it any simpler.

Zeke wrote: I don't see much of the pwnage going on, just a half-cocked troll in a crooked mini skirt.

Nick, will you please change your name from Trad Ninja to the above? That would be awesome.