The past tense of "lead" is spelled "led."

Taylor Ogden wrote:The rules of English may be ridiculous and inconsistent, but it's still a beautiful language when spoken correctly. Preferably by someone with a British accent. Or Morgan Freeman.

Um, yeah. I think it may also be at its most butchered in the same country.

"Speak English to me, Tony. I thought this country spawned the fucking language, and so far nobody seems to speak it." - Avi

Taylor Ogden wrote: I've always preferred the phrase, "falling up a route" to the term hangdog and it's ilk.

I'll just stick with John Long in believing there's nothing wrong with hangdogging or its ilk. Dogging, dogged, it makes sense to me. You don't get it "clean", but you sure as shit don't happen to trip or prance up a route like your preferred nomenclature would seem to imply.

Nothing makes my blood boil more than the rampant misuse of the Oxford Comma on this site.

Chris Sheridan wrote:Nothing makes my blood boil more than the rampant misuse of the Oxford Comma on this site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_i1xk07o4g

You only need to listen to the first line, although I do recommend listening to the whole song. Vampire Weekend is fun :)

Chris D wrote: I would agree with you in 99% of examples, but when it comes to this one (tense confusion), I'd disagree, and it only applies to the written word, so the point you make about speech is moot. And how does pointing out a common and simple mistake make for "one-upmanship?" That's a pretty paranoid way of looking at it. I want someone to correct me when I'm wrong. So I guess it's philosophical difference; I'm comfortable in my stupidity, and appreciate a correction if it's warranted. I guess if I had great interpretive acuity, I wouldn't care either. If you hear someone say "Well, that's a mute point" do you just cringe and let it go, so they go on saying it, sounding like an ass, or do you tell them "dude, the word is "moot."" Maybe they feel silly for a second, but you're doing them a favor, and they won't make that mistake again. So back to the original point, how does this sentence read? "After I till the garden, I grabbed me a beer and took me a break." There's plenty of crappy grammar in there, but none of it interrupts the flow of reading except for the awkward use of "till" instead of "tilled." So I guess that if only I didn't know that it should be "led" and not "lead," I'd be fine. In spoken word, it's clearly not a problem. My point was that it's awkward in written word.

When I referred to one-upmanship it wasn't necessarily directed at this forum post. I suppose it was a generalization directed towards college students more or less who find it necessary to insist that everybody use "proper" grammar. Yes, it's certainly a paranoid way to look at it. And when you're correcting somebody who pronounces a word incorrectly it's not a matter of grammar. That is a matter of phonology.

"though" and "thought"... completely interchangeable. Ha!!

Thank you! Makes me nuts when I see "lead" where "led" is meant.

Also, the expansion of "should've" is "should HAVE" not "should of." I see the latter with increasing frequency and have no idea regarding what the author could possibly think "should of" means.

you guys need to get off your computers and go climb something.

Andy Hansen wrote:Led Zeppelin chose the past tense spelling in order to avoid this same confusion. They thought people would pronounce it as "leed zeppelin" if they had spelled it like "lead."

not to be confused with 'live at Leeds' by the Who.

I prefer to be called a climbing lead'r instead of other spelling.

Woodchuck ATC wrote: not to be confused with 'live at Leeds' by the Who.

And what a great album that was (remember "albums"?)

But I digress...

FrankPS wrote: And what a great album that was (remember "albums"?) But I digress...

The sounds of vinyl....can't be beat. AND the nice album inserts, posters, pics you got too.

Woodchuck ATC wrote: The sounds of vinyl....can't be beat. AND the nice album inserts, posters, pics you got too.

Since it's early September, I'm starting to get the Summertime Blues. Ain't no cure...except maybe fall climbing!

Woodchuck ATC wrote: not to be confused with 'live at Leeds' by the Who.

...or Maid in Japan by Deap Purple
...or Tails of Brave Ulysses by Creem
...or Here Me Coiling by Tend Yer Aphthae

Shouldn't it be lead -> lod -> lodden? As in tread -> trod -> trodden?

Lead, leader, leadest,,,conjugated form?

bkb0000 wrote:it'll now be "leaded."

So does that mean I buy unleded gas?