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Fishy ad - possible stolen gear

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Anonymous · · Unknown Hometown · Joined unknown · Points: 0

Not sayin' it's stolen, just want people to take a look. There's also 2 ropes and some quick draws from the same guy.

ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&a…

Mike Washburn · · Orem, Utah · Joined Sep 2009 · Points: 30

I saw this earlier today and wondered the same thing.

Phillip Tearse · · Denver, CO · Joined May 2008 · Points: 80

16 cams for 1400$. winner! forged friends and loopless camalots yay!

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276

The prices are high, and his English is poor. Probably stolen.

Kai Larson · · Sandy, UT · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 436

I would bet that this is stolen.

Cross posting to the Utah forum might be a good idea.

Ryan Kelly · · work. · Joined Oct 2006 · Points: 2,960
FrankPS wrote:The prices are high, and his English is poor. Probably stolen.
I don't see any correlation between those observations and the likelihood of the seller being a thief.
Rick Blair · · Denver · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 266

What an odd collection of old friends and C4s. All appear to be in new condition. If it were stolen it would probably be from a shop, can you still buy forged friends new? Definitely can't get new rigid stem camalots.

Scott Jones · · Portland, OR · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 20

even if all the cam's were new the price wouldn't be much more

dorseyec · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2009 · Points: 5
Ryan Kelly wrote: I don't see any correlation between those observations and the likelihood of the seller being a thief.
Really? Ya must be blind or oblivious then. Unrealistic prices and poor English, Im guessing spanish as a native language.... Sounds fishy to me, you must not spend a lot of time in Salt Lake City.
camhead · · Vandalia, Appalachia · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 1,240
Eric Dorsey wrote: Really? Ya must be blind or oblivious then. Unrealistic prices and poor English, Im guessing spanish as a native language.... Sounds fishy to me, you must not spend a lot of time in Salt Lake City.
Racist!

youtube.com/watch?v=zyu2jAD…
Evan1984 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 30

Actually, this seems more like somebody who dabbled in climbing trying to sell their hardly used stuff. They were gifted/bought some old friends, had some previous generation camalots, and a few c4's, and, now, they want to recoup every penny.

The main reason I don't think its stolen is that most climbers wouldn't have that type of rack in car to jack.

Anyway, as with any private transaction, if it seems fishy, ask for some proof of ownership and a bill of sales. I am happy when people ask me for this. I went to buy a new in package power tool from a guy, asked him to bring some proof of ownership, and he suddenly didn't want to sell.

Trust but verify!

dorseyec · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2009 · Points: 5

Haha no, its not. Is it also racist to suspect a white-trash meth head of breaking into my car when I'm in the New River Gorge?

Hmmm someone selling a full trad rack(that has no idea what is), they don't speak english, and they live in salt lake.... Who could have done such a thing!!?

Boissal . · · Small Lake, UT · Joined Aug 2006 · Points: 1,541
Eric Dorsey wrote:Haha no, its not. Is it also racist to suspect a white-trash meth head of breaking into my car when I'm in the New River Gorge? Hmmm someone selling a full trad rack(that has no idea what is), they don't speak english, and they live in salt lake.... Who could have done such a thing!!?
You can barely write in English and you have a beard. How many women have you stoned you fucking Taliban?
Matt N · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 415

Can we somehow offend Mormons in this thread too?

As a cheap basterd, I'm offended by the rack's price.

dorseyec · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2009 · Points: 5
Boissal wrote: You can barely write in English and you have a beard. How many women have you stoned you fucking Taliban?
I "barely write in english"? If you're having a hard time following along want me to draw a picture with finger paint for you??

So its also racist to assume its a white trash meth head breaking into my car in the red and NRG??? Oh right, everyone is so PC here we wouldn't want to make any logical assumptions....

I have lived in Salt Lake City long enough to know who is breaking into cars and stealing bikes and the majority of the time they aren't Mormon! But they will steal your candy.

Anyone wanna call "tony" and ask about the history of the gear?
Finn The Human · · The Land of Ooo · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 106

Cam's

Boissal . · · Small Lake, UT · Joined Aug 2006 · Points: 1,541
Eric Dorsey wrote:I have lived in Salt Lake City long enough
That explains a lot.
Choss Chasin' · · Torrance, CA · Joined Aug 2010 · Points: 25

I'm a white mormon, meth-head, boulderer that steals racks from cars. I then smash them into little pieces and stuff it all in my crash pad. That way I can tell everyone I fall on gear all the time. I'm BAD ASS!!!

(Don't be hatin' on people for race; hate them for the types of climbing they enjoy. Whatever happened to boulderer bashing?!?!)

Finn The Human · · The Land of Ooo · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 106

For better or worse KSL has a problem with scammers, and one of the tell tale signs is poor grammar. It's not a race thing, it's reality. Does it mean this ad is a scam? No, but it doesn't hurt to be cautious either.

KSL Fraud Warning Page: ksl.com/index.php?nid=391&s…

clausti · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 5
Evan Horvath aka Evan1984 wrote:Actually, this seems more like somebody who dabbled in climbing trying to sell their hardly used stuff. They were gifted/bought some old friends, had some previous generation camalots, and a few c4's, and, now, they want to recoup every penny. The main reason I don't think its stolen is that most climbers wouldn't have that type of rack in car to jack. Anyway, as with any private transaction, if it seems fishy, ask for some proof of ownership and a bill of sales. I am happy when people ask me for this. I went to buy a new in package power tool from a guy, asked him to bring some proof of ownership, and he suddenly didn't want to sell. Trust but verify!
you're joking. 5+ year old receipts for cams? who has that?
Tim McCabe · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Oct 2006 · Points: 130
clausti wrote: you're joking. 5+ year old receipts for cams? who has that?
Receipts not likely, if someone wants to find out if this is someone's personal rack ask to see pics of him with the gear on a climb.
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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