By lee hansche Administrator From: goffstown, nh Aug 22, 2011
yeah tim is a very acomplished "boulderer"...
By Dom Administrator From: New Brunswick Canada Apr 1, 2012
Soloing is dumb.
By E thatcher From: Plymouth/ North Conway (NH) Apr 2, 2012
Driving cars with others on the road is dumb. In which situation do YOU have more control over the outcome? People so often trivialize the risks we take in every day life and make special examples out of calculated risks others choose to make with their own life.
To each his/her own. For myself, I think of the legacies of accomplished climbers and soloists of 'my time' such as Derek Hersey and John Bachar. Yes, driving is dangerous. There is much evidence to support this. That is why it is highly recommended to drive defensively, wear a seat belt, and have side impact air bag equipped car if possible.
By E thatcher From: Plymouth/ North Conway (NH) Apr 3, 2012
"To each his own" = what I was getting at Neoh. It irks me when folks make blanket statements about some one else's choices when it is not of their concern...
By Dom Administrator From: New Brunswick Canada Apr 11, 2012
I know a few people that solo climb and I respect more the ones that do so ALONE. Soloing is a selfish pursuit so why bother going where there are people or cameras? I never want to be that guy at the bottom of the cliff when a soloist falls, would you?
I reiterate that soloing is dumb, but if you don't involve others (whether bystanders, other climbers, hikers, etc.)then at least you won't make others at the crag feel uncomfortable.
Dom, that's a pretty basic mindset you've got going on there, good luck with that.
By Dom Administrator From: New Brunswick Canada Apr 27, 2012
Perhaps, but I hate it when people solo in front of me. Maybe you don't. Good for you. Sure I've soloed before, but I've never gone soloing where I know people will be. Why would I do that? To prove myself? The fact that his guy is soloing a classic route in August in Rumney is what I find dumb. He knew people would be there. If you want to solo fine, but don't involve others. If others are at the crag then they will inexorably be involved if something bad was to happen.
By lee hansche Administrator From: goffstown, nh Apr 27, 2012
i totally see both sides of this debate...
i once heard the saying "the freedom of your fist ends where my face begins" meaning you are free to do what you like so long as it doesnt hurt anyone... many people dont understand that even if the soloist doesnt fall it can be painful for some to watch...
the other side is the idea that we should be able to climb how we want where we want which is a good arguement as well... its a bummer when there isnt an easy answer... when i have soloed i have mostly done so alone, when people were around i asked if they minded... just cause you have the right to do something doesnt mean courtisy is not in order...
just my thoughts, always do what feels right to you...
Lee, very well put. I think respect is the main goal here. Knowing Tim, I know that he was not trying to offend or impress or prove anything, that not the type of guy he is. Tim just really enjoys soloing.
Like Lee said it comes down to doing what feels right to you.