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Gregger Man
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Jul 30, 2011
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Broomfield, CO
· Joined Aug 2004
· Points: 1,769
If you've ever gotten the sinking feeling in the middle of a pitch that maybe your knot might not be secure, this is the knot for you: The Sooooper 8® Four passes through both tie-in points with a triple retraced figure-8 knot with 3 extra passes followed by a 12-wrap safety knot and finished by a three-wrap monkey puzzle stopper knot. For extra added safety, I have included a three wrap prusik attached to the belay loop with opposite and opposed lockers ('cause you never know...) -loads of safety! -takes a mere 23 minutes to tie/untie! -replete with awesome redundantness! Please offer improvements if you can add any. :0)
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Mark Roth
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Jul 30, 2011
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Boulder
· Joined Jan 2008
· Points: 14,062
just need to back up those tie in loops
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Phil Lauffen
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Jul 30, 2011
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Innsbruck, AT
· Joined Jun 2008
· Points: 3,098
Yer gonna die. What if your harness breaks? You really should be using two harness, with seperate and isolated ropes. Your knot looks decent though.
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Robbie Flick
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Jul 30, 2011
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Baltimore, MD
· Joined Jul 2010
· Points: 17
Very elegant - what happens when your quick release harness fails though?
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andrewc
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Jul 30, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jul 2008
· Points: 0
The fact that you think its acceptable to not be using a quarter rope system is very sad. I imagine that you left the other 3 ropes out to make your knot clearer but someone with less than 25 years experience is going to see this and the blood will be on your soul.
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Gregger Man
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Jul 30, 2011
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Broomfield, CO
· Joined Aug 2004
· Points: 1,769
andrewc wrote:The fact that you think its acceptable to not be using a quarter rope system is very sad. I imagine that you left the other 3 ropes out to make your knot clearer but someone with less than 25 years experience is going to see this and the blood will be on your soul. Maybe I should add a disclaimer or perhaps a EULA-type legal waiver when you click to view the larger image. If the knot gets ½Nelson's approval, I'm using it anyhow.
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Woodchuck ATC
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Jul 30, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Nov 2007
· Points: 3,280
Being skeptical, I'm still doubtful about overall safety.
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FrankPS
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Jul 30, 2011
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Atascadero, CA
· Joined Nov 2009
· Points: 276
Now I know why 70 and 80 meter ropes came to the market!
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Abram Herman
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Jul 30, 2011
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Grand Junction, CO
· Joined May 2009
· Points: 20
Your stopper knot isn't snugged all the way up to the triple retraced figure-8. YER GUNNA DIIIIIIIEEEEEEE!!!
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Buff Johnson
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Jul 30, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2005
· Points: 1,145
OMG....MY EYES... MY FRIGGIN EYES
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Ian Stewart
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Jul 30, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined May 2010
· Points: 155
the monkey puzzle protects you from primates, too.
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Buff Johnson
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Jul 30, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2005
· Points: 1,145
and the ability to breed with other human primates, also
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Gregger Man
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Jul 30, 2011
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Broomfield, CO
· Joined Aug 2004
· Points: 1,769
After considering the legal ramifications of someone using this knot, maybe I should replace the original photo with this one. That should clear up any confusion/improper use.
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B RAD
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Aug 2, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Oct 2010
· Points: 0
I dunno.. I'm still a bit skeptical. Maybe you could show us a pull test at FF3?
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Wiled Horse
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Aug 2, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2002
· Points: 3,669
are those speed buckles?!
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Yarp
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Aug 2, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jan 2011
· Points: 0
Good...but it wouldn't hurt to leave a little more tail at the end. Knot creep...and stuff. As previously mentioned I'd probably back up that rappel loop too and instead of the prussik I'd probably just attach a mini trax or two above the knot. SAFER that way. Can't ever have too many tools in the tool box. Great climbing content!
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Tim Stich
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Aug 2, 2011
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Colorado Springs, Colorado
· Joined Jan 2001
· Points: 1,520
Now it looks like you blurred a picture of your weiner.
Just sayin'!
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DBarton
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Aug 2, 2011
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CENTENNIAL, CO
· Joined Oct 2010
· Points: 105
Woodchuck ATC wrote:Being skeptical, I'm still doubtful about overall safety. I agree, what if you hit yourself in the face with than monkey puzzle knot! I think that you need a fully integrated face shield and likely a neck protector to protect you from your safety knot. Also, what about a full body harness and added parachute... just in case.
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Gregger Man
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Aug 2, 2011
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Broomfield, CO
· Joined Aug 2004
· Points: 1,769
I lied about the monkey puzzle stopper knot: It's actually a very compressed full body airbag. I'd explain how it works, but I signed a non-disclosure form....
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Chris Graham
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Aug 2, 2011
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Bartlett, NH
· Joined Jun 2008
· Points: 545
I've been using that knot for years, but added one more keeper sling prusiked slightly above your purple backup knot that automatically deploys my parachute when it goes taut. I only use this knot for multi-pitch clearly.
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Rick Blair
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Aug 2, 2011
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Denver
· Joined Oct 2007
· Points: 266
One more extra wrap on your prussic and isolate the strands by cloving them to the individual biners and I'd say you are just about done.
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