What was going on at Cob Rock today!?
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Ray Lovestead wrote:This is a tragic story and should not be made light of. These two people were in dire need of assistance and the Boulder rescue squads were able to provide it. I would like to extend my hand in help and offer money to purchase their single use rack of climbing equipment at a discount.+1 and fuckin hilarious |
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why the basket? all they had to do was dangle a new pair of shoes and a handcrafted bag on the near side |
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Mark Nelson wrote:why the basket? all they had to do was dangle a new pair of shoes and a handcrafted bag on the near side+1 ...or a Starbuck's french vanilla triple shot latte |
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Driving up the Canyon at around 10:15 on Saturday, I saw a woman crossing that traverse clipped in with what looked like a 3-foot sling. Obviously, she was dangling in the water. It's hard to think that someone would have been stuck there that long, so maybe it wasn't the same person. It seems pretty obvious from looking at the setup that you would want to tie in as short as you can to stay out of the water. I guess the woman in the article missed that point. |
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This is down right pathetic. |
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Carl Dixon wrote:Driving up the Canyon at around 10:15 on Saturday, I saw a woman crossing that traverse clipped in with what looked like a 3-foot sling. Obviously, she was dangling in the water.This is the problem. You clip in with the very shortest connection you have, maybe even just a locker through your belay loop. Then it's easier to get a grip on the rope to move. It is quite difficult to get anywhere if you had a three foot sling. |
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what's scary is that this happened to people who were going to go climbing. i think they're lucky that they never made it onto the rock. otherwise, the rescue resources would've likely been much more necessary. |
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Mark Nelson wrote:why the basket? all they had to do was dangle a new pair of shoes and a handcrafted bag on the near sideNow that's a little unfair. I've seen plenty of men out climbing that would create the exact same clusterfuck in this situation. Rediculous that they had to mount a rescue effort for these people, but let's not make in about what they've got between their legs. |
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If you clipped in w/ a too-long sling, you could easily end-up in the middle of a cold, whitewater wave and too far below the rope to grab it...anyone here made a mistake before? |
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Ryan Williams wrote: Now that's a little unfair. I've seen plenty of men out climbing that would create the exact same clusterfuck in this situation. Rediculous that they had to mount a rescue effort for these people, but let's not make in about what they've got between their legs.I don't think it's about what gender they were at all. If it were guys I'm sure the bashing would have been much worse and instead of a pair of shoes and a hand bag the peanut gallery would have written... "dangle a cold beer and some doughnuts" |
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here we go |
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Ben Walburn wrote:here we goAwesome! |
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Yeah, if you clip in too long, it becomes much much more difficult to pull along the line. Even stronger folks can get tired pretty quick if the technique is done poorly. Some think the only issue with the length of the tie-in has to do with distance to the water but it's much more about distance from the line vs ability to pull. Another issue is that lots of folks keep their packs on. If you're strong and fast on the line, this is no problem but it is much more work to keep your body upright with the pack on. I don't know if the folks in question were trying to get back across with packs still on but keep in mind that, if the technique was done poorly and they were tired after climbing it would be relatively easy to lack the strength to pull up from the middle of the line. And, as has been pointed out, this is the point where you are most likely to get wet on this line (I got a nice splashing going across it last weekend). If you're unsure of your ability, make sure you're tied in short and hook your pack on the line behind you with a sling connected to you so that it just pulls along the line with you. Much easier and way more fun. |
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John Marsella wrote: (it seemed inevitable)+12,345,654,234,754,345^3 |
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You can cross even when the water is this high, you want to be careful not to drop in the river, that would be a wild ride! ;) |
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+1 for the jaws photo. Ha Ha! thats good shit. |
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I don't know if anyone uses this technique, but sometimes I'll clip the pack off to a cordelette, cross the tyrolean, then simply pull the pack across. If you can't get across a fukn tyrolean, you have no business being in the mountains (I wouldn't even consider bocan as such) |
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In any case, a fall into that creek would more than likely be fatal drowning time ending in death. That's some roiling, freezing water. |