TP and shit everywhere at the Butterfly wall

kirra wrote:--or what?

For starters maybe I'll fill the vacancy you left in the CCA.

Sounds like a Euro crag, they're all that way over here.

Geir, I made a mistake a long time ago. I burnt some desert and TP. Meant to only do the latter. The wind whipped it out of control so fast, I ruined my favoriet T shirt from one of the bouldering contest smashing flames out. Yanked the soda out of my kids hands to douse the embers. I was lucky.

I do not endorse burning your TP when fire danger is high. Pack it out or wait to go camping when you can have a campfire and roast TP.

I've worked a number of wildfires over the years which were started by the careless burning of toilet paper during times of high fire danger. On one incident on the Kaibab Forest the (ir)responsible individual suffered moderate burns on his hands and feet (wearing sandals) while unsuccessfully trying to put out the fire.

I gotta admit, I haven't been as eco-poo-sensitive as I could be. I've been a big proponent, however, of getting away from the path/crag, digging deep, and then covering with a sizeable rock - often in excess of 20+ lbs. Butt... sometimes animals will dig that shit up, tp and all, no matter how deep, etc.. I guess I wasn't a boyscout or on Team Planet or wherever people picked up the burnt bum fodder regimen because I've only heard of it recently, but I couldn't help thinking of the resulting smell and fire risk. I suppose I should get in the habit of bringing a wag bag for my tp just like the one for my dog, or, like mentioned, natural materials can doo just as well in a pinch.

Oh yeah, the "best" example of disposed dook I saw recently was square on the Humphrey's Peak trail last week: a fat crap with tp mashed into the top of it and swarming with flies. Thing was, we hadn't seen it on the way up, so some bunghole bandit left that spunky butt burrito and shamelessly passed us on his/her way up. For shame!

manuel rangel wrote:Geir, I made a mistake a long time ago. I burnt some desert and TP. Meant to only do the latter. The wind whipped it out of control so fast, I ruined my favoriet T shirt from one of the bouldering contest smashing flames out. Yanked the soda out of my kids hands to douse the embers. I was lucky. I do not endorse burning your TP when fire danger is high. Pack it out or wait to go camping when you can have a campfire and roast TP.

Hey Manny that sounds fine to me. When I mentioned burning as a consideration I had in mind doing so only under safe circumstances. Maybe I should have been more clear. What I am learning from examples such as yours and those Zeus and Albert cited is that it's not always clear when it's safe to burn. Kinda like campfires, I suppose.

Regards,
Geir

Geir wrote: For starters maybe I'll fill the vacancy you left in the CCA.

haha --now there ya'go assuming 2nd-hand info again

there's only 1 vacancy you should consider filling, just my opinion o'course