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Pigtails??

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Mtnfly · · El Segundo, Ca · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 15

Been seeing these form in a few of my ropes lately. Am I doing something that makes my ropes to do this. Any helpful hints from preventing this is future. Do certain devices cause more of this cluster-F??

Mike Lane · · AnCapistan · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 880

Using a figure 8 for rappelling is the worst culprit, another is doing the old alpine style rope coil.
Best way to get them out of your rope (works with electrical cords too) is to go to a park with living grass (I have to say this b/c that is a problem in Colo. Springs) and simply drag it around by one end. Looping it around trees and light poles speeds up the de-coiling.
Then, learn the overhand coil method or better yet, start using a rope bag. With the latter, be sure to spill your rope from one end to the other frequently.

Mtnfly · · El Segundo, Ca · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 15

I typically use an ATC or grigri to belay with. A few ropes of my ropes are stored in bags, and I think they might be better like you suggested. I use a butterfly coil (backpack coil) when there is much of an approach. I will try the above response and let you know how it goes.

Any other ideas??

Zac Warren · · Springdale, UT · Joined Mar 2010 · Points: 210

I've seen a lot of problems with coils forming in ropes because people have unwrapped their ropes wrong from when they first bought them. I've fixed a couple by clipping the first few draws in a gym or outside and then just running the rope all the way through back and forth a few dozen times until you see the rope has no more coiling. You'll know when your done

Ed Wright · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2006 · Points: 285

Another thing that puts twists in your rope is pulling it through an anchor where the two rings are separated rather than coming together the way two chains would.

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 3,492
BSU_Zac wrote:I've seen a lot of problems with coils forming in ropes because people have unwrapped their ropes wrong from when they first bought them.
This bears repeating. New ropes need to be uncoiled. Not just plopped on the ground and butterflied in your hands. Failure to do this will start your rope out with 40 or so twists in it. Fig 8 devices and Munter hitches are actually trying to remove these (by pushing them to the end, which is where you see them) Do this - sight lengthwise down your rope. If it has incipient twists in it, you'll see them.
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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