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whats with this light gear fad?

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icymonsters · · ct · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 5

a lot of routes where put up with oval biners and frost nuts and maybe forged friends.

who gives a s.h.!t if it is .234oz less! take a poo before u climb! have four less beer's the week before,hell vomit you weakling.or maybe do an extra pull up once a week.

light is only right if your a wimp! money cant buy everything not even 5.12 trad!! do your due diligence!!

disclosure: right now I can only lead 5.8 but its because I have a beer belly ....oh and my rack is to heavy :)

NickinCO · · colorado · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 155

if you don't like it why complain about it and why just not buy it? I'm sure you can find great deals on the old "heavy" stuff.

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911

well "we" Americans aint getting any lighter if you havent noticed so every bit counts + we are helping China.

Chris Plesko · · Westminster, CO · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 485

If you don't want light gear, don't use it.

And it's hardly a fad. "Light is right" has been a mountaineering and alpine philosophy for decades. Messner eh? Lots of people use light gear and climb hard. Others just don't like humping heavy packs (me!) in the backcountry if it can be avoided.

Besides, people used to pound pins and seige climbs. Now the Nose is routinely done in a day. Don't kid yourself, gear evolution, fitness and an open mind have all contributed.

icymonsters · · ct · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 5
Nick Mardirosian wrote:if you don't like it why complain about it and why just not buy it? I'm sure you can find great deals on the old "heavy" stuff.
say what ..if i don't like it.. buy it.. that's the problem we have answers for everything take a pill cuz your lazy. hell heres a new biner you doof climb on..feel sick drink a beer in the morning, got the blues heres a nut tool that's so light it floats..lol..just venting sorry..
icymonsters · · ct · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 5

ok ok i'm just venting ...it just seems climbers seem to spend to much on light gear and not on the right training..one pull up a week is free ..keep your heavy gear (sh!t)save the planet..

England · · Colorado Springs · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 270
Chris Plesko wrote:If you don't want light gear, don't use it. And it's hardly a fad. "Light is right" has been a mountaineering and alpine philosophy for decades. Messner eh? Lots of people use light gear and climb hard. Others just don't like humping heavy packs (me!) in the backcountry if it can be avoided. Besides, people used to pound pins and seige climbs. Now the Nose is routinely done in a day. Don't kid yourself, gear evolution, fitness and an open mind have all contributed.
....and there you go. Enough said!
rob bauer · · Golden, CO · Joined Dec 2004 · Points: 3,929

I trust this thread will die quickly (except for this).

Crag Dweller · · New York, NY · Joined Jul 2006 · Points: 125
icymonsters wrote:ok ok i'm just venting ...it just seems climbers seem to spend to much on light gear and not on the right training..one pull up a week is free ..keep your heavy gear (sh!t)save the planet..
so, you climb with a hemp rope and no harness, then?
zxx · · texas · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 0

icy,
I like your style.

Evan1984 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 30
icymonsters wrote:a lot of routes where put up with oval biners and frost nuts and maybe forged friends. who gives a s.h.!t if it is .234oz less! take a poo before u climb! have four less beer's the week before,hell vomit you weakling.or maybe do an extra pull up once a week. light is only right if your a wimp! money cant buy everything not even 5.12 trad!! do your due diligence!! disclosure: right now I can only lead 5.8 but its because I have a beer belly ....oh and my rack is to heavy :)
Translation:

"I miss the old days when life seemed simple. It makes me mad."

Seriously, would you replace a 78 Bronco with another body on frame, cast engine block truck?

I agree that its silly to replace good gear because soemthign equivalent came out that is lighter. But, I don't really understand how you wouldn't appreciate lighter gear.

Evan
Anonymous · · Unknown Hometown · Joined unknown · Points: 0

bump to show the world what a truly idiotic thread looks like.

Toby Butterfield · · Portland, OR · Joined Aug 2010 · Points: 140
Eric D · · Gnarnia · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 235

Hmmmm...

Buy lighter gear or drink less beer.

jay durbin · · Streator, il · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 5

i like carrying my heavy ovals and heavy gear. ive had it a while its what im used to,and when i downsize my rack for certain climbs, its like dropping 5 pounds, making the climbing a bit easier, or just allowing me to drink more beer!

-sp · · East-Coast · Joined May 2007 · Points: 75
Shumin Wu wrote: 5.12 trad is like so yesterday...
Yeah, but if Arc'teryx sold the ability to climb it, I'd be first in line.
Rick Blair · · Denver · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 266
Owen Darrow · · Helena, mt · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 1,790

If you don't care about weight than thats all good. If you do thats cool too! Who cares, it's all climbing and its all good but for me I try to drop as much weight as I can to ease the pain of a 10 mile approach to some nice alpine climb.

Jake D. · · Northeast · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 365

I bet Icy drilled holes in his hexes...

peachy spohn · · Portland · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 1,142
Toby B wrote:
Ha ha ha...I like Toby
Pete Spri · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2009 · Points: 347

Just thinking about the difference of one pound of weight for Alpine climbing... think about how many more calories to lift 1 pound of weight over a 10'000 or 20'000 foot ascent. That adds up quickly, requiring more food and even worse, more water!

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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