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Rapping off the Grand Teton
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I am trying to remember the length of the rappel down to the upper saddle. |
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10 years ago I did it with a single 60M rope. With no down climbing other than what you do to reach the rappels in the first place. |
Sunny-D wrote:I am trying to remember the length of the rappel down to the upper saddle. I know you can do it with a 60 m and end up on a black then down climb. what I am wondering is if a 70 m would put you on the ground? Any thoughts?70m works great: that standard rappel is 120'. My favorite single rope length for routes up there for sure. |
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60m definitely works, I did it a few weeks ago. You land a bit to the right of where folks with 2 ropes (or a 70m) would land, but there is no downclimbing involved. |
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70m is perfect. |
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JHMG added rap anchors a year or two ago that require a 70m, those anchors are to the south of the normal anchors that reach with a 60m. |
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and chances are you can rap with another party to make it quicker if you're at the summit at a reasonable time |
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The rap that might be considered for a single 70M is actually marked at a 40M distance. Not saying a 70M might/might not work, you guys sound like you know better; they just tagged it at 40M distance to the ground. This rap station is a clean shot to the ground. |
Mark Nelson wrote:(not for nothing, but why would anyone hoof a 70M rope up there and not just go with twins between 2 people, or just go with a mid9 60M??)Well, because... Bunches of the old routes were done when a standard roped pitch (and rope length) was 120 feet. So, you double a 70 for the harder pitches, and run the full length out for the easier ones... Voila. You're welcome. -Brian in SLC |
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Just to be sure I figured I'd post last minute. I'm going this wed AM car to car, and want to clear up the rap situation. I only have one 60m rope. It sounds like there is a first rappel located (where?) south of the summit somewhere that goes down sargents chimney and is short? Then you scramble somewhere to the main rappel. And from there, there is one rap for a 60m, and another more recently setup rap for 70m or doubles? Mostly just worried about finding the second or main rap. Any help would be appreciated, and sorry if the post has redundancies from earlier questions. |
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Not trying to be annoying, but the easiest thing is to forget the rope altogether and DC it; O-S's technical sections are short and solid. Or, chill for :5 at the station and charm your way onto someone else's rope. |
Jake Kay wrote:Just to be sure I figured I'd post last minute. I'm going this wed AM car to car, and want to clear up the rap situation. I only have one 60m rope. It sounds like there is a first rappel located (where?) south of the summit somewhere that goes down sargents chimney and is short? Then you scramble somewhere to the main rappel. And from there, there is one rap for a 60m, and another more recently setup rap for 70m or doubles? Mostly just worried about finding the second or main rap. Any help would be appreciated, and sorry if the post has redundancies from earlier questions.I've never done more that 1 rap to get off the Grand. From the summit just head towards the upper saddle and it's about where you'd expect it to be. The trail is beat in. |
Buzz wrote:Not trying to be annoying, but the easiest thing is to forget the rope altogether and DC it; O-S's technical sections are short and solid.Somewhat. There is ice built up from a storm that had about 3" of precip dropped on the mountain recently. Though I didn't feel all that uncomfortable about it with approach shoes only. |
