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you signed up just to say that? must be reeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaal mad.

yeah dave, yeeeaaaahh. absolutly g@d damn right.

What exactly is a talented climber? Someone who can climb 12s as soon as they take up rock climbing or someone who doesn't mind runouts? Are you born talented or do you work hard to become talented? At least you got an extra bolt for your next route. Good luck though

you must be super awesome!!!

"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Sorry to hear someone messed with your art.

I just had this very experience yesterday in developing a new route (albeit of a much easier grade) My mantra is "Spicy yet Safe for the grade" I only place a bolt if there isn't adequate natural pro available and then only the minimum necessary to keep it safe. Unfortunately the climbing community is losing some of its ethic of not altering a route that was established by someone else. Hopefully you find the person who did it and educate her in climbing ethics.

Your indignant rage might be taken more seriously if you spelled "vandalized" correctly. Just sayin'.

daved wrote: If you can't do an established route without littering it with bolt/s then stay off of it.

daved wrote:If you can't do an established route without littering it with bolt/s then stay off of it.

matt davies wrote: Sorry to hear someone messed with your art.

Tparis wrote:Hopefully you find the person who did it and educate her in climbing ethics.

Fawk this makes me sad and angry, if your not capable of sackin up to lead a runout climb stay off it, go to gumbyland where its nice and safe for you disrespectful, disgraceful, and unethical climbers.

Point taken. Now just chop the bolt.

The dude who did the true FA as a high ball probably thinks you "VANDOLIZED" the route when you added your 2 measly bolts.

Mike Diesen wrote: Looks like the person was a girl. That narrows it down quite a bit.

Tparis wrote:Hopefully you find the person who did it and educate her in climbing ethics.

Is it such a big deal? If you don't want to use the bolt, don't clip it. I would take a hit to my pride over decking out any day...

Just me i guess but looking BA at the expense of a broken leg and the end of your season is not a smart trade off.

desmond, watch the sharp end.

Did you put those bolts in (on sight) (on lead) from a natural stance? Did you top rope it and decide where YOU needed gear to lead the line? Is it still a good route? Go yank it and fill the cavity!

TopRope Princess wrote: How do we know it's a girl? What did she do, leave her lipstick at the base of the climb?