Gathering wood in j-tree campgrounds
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Mike, |
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camp site 45.people need to pull there head out of there asses
mike has made a good point.dont read in to it more than it is.we all get the point.here is a picture of stupid people gathering shrubs.DONT GATHER THE FUCKIN BUSHES,TREES OR JOSHUA TREES.IVE SEEN IT.Good job mike bringing this topic to all of our attention. |
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eMurdock |
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Huh? I am not sure I understand. A stop sign does not need an explanation but your photos of two different trees, with an erroneous description and an incorrect explanation that people chopped one of the trees down, is good? Why do people need to see what a tree looks like, don't they already know what a tree is(using your stop sign analogy)? Why not post a tree that was actually chopped down for firewood. I also said that the impact in the campgrounds has flattened over the past decade or so -- meaning it is actually, on the whole less, not more. Good ideas but I think being deceptive does matter. Still, I agree, people mangle the veg. |
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Mike, |
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There's trees in Joshua Tree? |
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Does anybody know if the "dead and down" rule applies at Jtree? I know it's o.k. at Yose, that is if you can find some. At Seki, there's tons of dead and downed. |
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cMn wrote:Does anybody know if the "dead and down" rule applies at Jtree? ... They stay on the ground, looking at the climb, talking things over for 20 minutes. They chicken out, go back to their site, pack up and leave.Nice story! You're not allowed to gather anything for your fire at Joshua Tree. The dead and down plant material is as important to the desert's wildlife as the living vegetation. I was hoping to hear about how the gym climbers managed the SW Corner of Headstone. I mean, it's just clipping bolts, right? :) |
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Fat Dad wrote:David, Unfortunately, that's pretty common. A number of times I've pulled back into my site after a day of climbing only to find that someone else has pulled in, pitches their tent, etc. They give you the 'hey man, is it OK if we crash here', even though they already have. You kind of feel like an a-hole if you don't say yes, but I think it's pretty rude. When you get the late night, singing dirtbag, it's clearly worse but unfortunately, at that point they've become squatters. Unless you're willing to get into a confrontation, you're kind of stuck.Asking beforehand is one thing; even pitching it in a sleeping bag then getting up and promptly leaving is tolerable. But outright setting up tents and the like is unacceptable. Of the 500 plus nights I've camped at JTree, this may have happened to me a half dozen times. Each and every time I have told them to pack their shit up and get out. One guy snapped back at me one time and I got up grapped a frying pan and started towards him yelling I was going to kick his ass if he didn't start moving NOW. A friend grabbed my arm and the squatter promptly started moving. |
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Fat Dad wrote:David, Unfortunately, that's pretty common. A number of times I've pulled back into my site after a day of climbing only to find that someone else has pulled in, pitches their tent, etc. They give you the 'hey man, is it OK if we crash here', even though they already have. You kind of feel like an a-hole if you don't say yes, but I think it's pretty rude. When you get the late night, singing dirtbag, it's clearly worse but unfortunately, at that point they've become squatters. Unless you're willing to get into a confrontation, you're kind of stuck.Browning 12 gauge auto.....a few rounds off in the air to get your point across.....and to counteract the annoying noise. Send a few rounds overhead every now and then.....and then ask, 'hey, y'all mind if i do a little shooting?'. I think they are revising fed rules regarding firearms for self defense in various nat'l parks. Don't know if J Tree has been revised |