Firearms

Unfortunately, laws generally have to hit pretty close to the lowest common denominator. If people could behave themselves then laws would be necessary.

Testicles hurt on everyone who's got them. So do eyeballs, pressure points, ears, hair. I don't worry about my sister too much, who weight half as much as I do and nearly half my height. She's resourceful.

Sure, and there's a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow!

This is just a brief summary of a conversation I had with a friend once I discovered the 357 Mag in the glove box of his truck while en route to a crag in northern New Mexico:

Me: Why do you have this thing in your glove box?
Him: In case I accidentally hit an Elk, and subsequently need to put it out of its misery.

Me: Ok (skeptical)..why is it fully loaded!!
Him: Because Elk travel in herds.

GiGi...you rock.

And to the above post... just because someone has testicles...does mean you'll have the chance to kick them. If someones intent is do you harm...they will be a force to that end.

I don't pack heat...though a mountain lion run-in made me want to change that.

Of course...if that Lion really wants you...it's not gonna come running at you across an open field as you blast away...it will be on your back, crushing your skull before you could even pull that weapon out.

Bawls E. Climber wrote: I never go anywhere unarmed ever!

sunder wrote: Yeah i can tell by ur pictures!

Feels weird looking at assault rifles laying on a baby blanket on a play mat next to toys. That giraffe is just so freaken' cute.

The best part is: if you purchased the weapon you're carrying into RoMo on a credit card, and don't pay it off right away, the bank can't raise the APR on it!

Red wrote: In case of a random wild animal attacking you would be one reason. One species, bears, will eat people if they don't get enough food elsewhere. Believe it or not, people actually had to hunt for food at one point in time before supermarkets ruled the country. A lot of people still do hunt. This is just two easy reasons. I could list many more but don't want to waste the time.

At one point in time people also hunted without a gun. I will feel less comfortable knowing people have guns. Red necks are much scarier than a bear.

I was actually considering a small handgun for my upcoming car camping trip...but quickly dismissed it because I'm not about to be the one that introduces a weapon that is later used on ME!!!

jmeizis wrote: Hell, I own a gun and don't consider carrying it around with me because I don't exhibit the constant fear of murder and molestation that the vast majority of the public does.

Lucky, you! I'm jealous (I really am!) Colorado Springs, and the areas you travel must be really safe, and nice; free of the element. : )

jmeizis wrote:It'd be a lot more fair if nobody owned guns, keep the playing field level. Too bad that ship has sailed.

Would never happen, only the bad guys would have them then. imagine, that. ; /

jmeizis wrote:My fear is that the reckless jackasses who some how are allowed to possess guns; the same ones who shoot up NFS signs and throw their McDonald's wrappers out their RV window, the Winnebago Warriors, and the motorized mutton heads, feeling vindicated as they do to tote around their newly legalized erectile substitute will get so excited playing with each other's Boom Sticks that they might just lose control have a little accident.

Yeah, I hear ya; I've bumped into them when out in remote areas; especially in the Nevada, and California desert. I'm sure accidents can happen, as sexual assaults, robberies, and murders do.

jmeizis wrote:...You know shoot an "intruder" who walked through their campsite, be it a furry critter, or just one needing to take a piss. The mind plays funny tricks on people. If you're not going for a confrontation then why bring something confrontational with you? If you're so afraid of the things in nature then why go there at all?

Many people that carry a gun legally, don't have a history of mental ilness, or felonies, or a domestic violence charge, and hopefully won't be quick on the trigger, but again, I hear ya.

jmeizis wrote:GiGi, to answer your question I wouldn't encourage my girlfriend, sister, or mother to carry a gun or any other particular weapon. There are lots of things that can be used as weapons. If a gun gives you a sense of security then I feel badly that males have given you such a sense of insecurity, I'm not in charge of them so I can't do anything about that. I'd argue that the sense of security one gets with a gun or any other weapon is false. Just because you've got one doesn't mean you'll get to use it or be willing to use it.

I respect everyones' opinion, and rights here. As far as you calling me insecure; there may be some truth to that. I have never been personally harmed by a man in my life; except a few physical fights with boys when I was a kid; nothing serious. I guess I've been lucky; even men who were known to be bad towards women have somehow been protective over me in my crazy past, till now. Now women, that's another story! Most of the emotional, and physical abuse I had suffered, and my sense of self damaged was by women; but that was during my childhood, and I have, and have had many great female friends/mentors that have helped me trust the female gender now.

That being said; I have had a gun pulled on me twice, by a stranger (a man each time), but, I didn't take it personally- I was at the wrong place at the wrong time, and with other people during incident-not alone), BUT, I have witnessed a lot of violence from early childhood till now, and did witness, as a young teen, my best friend being raped up in the mountains by her ex-boyfriend while three of his friends held me back as I screamed. AND, I have been exposed to many murderers, rapists, and criminals, and dangerous psychotic people who have done some really terrible things (not everything makes the papers, and many crimes go unreported), and have been friends with quite a few correctional officers, and have spoken to cops, and many psychiatrists (no, I wasn't their client- not yet, anyway), grew up in not so nice areas in LA, and live in Vegas, and the majority of my friends happen to be street wise; from LA, to the south, to Chicago, and rough areas in New York, and sometimes we get to talking, SO, maybe that's my problem, and where the paranoia stems from? ; ) I dunno; maybe if my life experiences were different; like some lucky to have a stable home, little, or no exposure to violence, and living in nice small towns, or friendlier big cities, I'd feel safer, and trust people more. Who knows?

TEA, and Tradster, thanks bros! : )

flatlander605 wrote:I was actually considering a small handgun for my upcoming car camping trip...but quickly dismissed it because I'm not about to be the one that introduces a weapon that is later used on ME!!!

I can understand where you are coming from with this point of view. Just because you carry a piece doesn't mean things will necessarily turn out in your favor. I hear you on that one.

EDIT: We don't always carry a gun; only in areas where I feel uncomfortable not packing (like remote areas in the NV., and California desert). I just thought I'd better clear that up before the anti-gunnies (in National Parks) get a visual, and all.

Ahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : )

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jmeizis wrote: Just because you've got one doesn't mean you'll get to use it or be willing to use it.

I'd be willing to use it in self defense, and hopefully put up a good fight (I'd pull his god damn eyes out too- I mean male, or female who is attacking me).

Same here. Down around the Mexican border where the baddies roam; driving across the Cali desert, too.

anti-gun? not this Iraq vet. but I do think the "about damn time" comments are ridiculous. In the future when my two daughters are old enough to backpack on their own, I dont think I will worry about them. Yes, they will probably have a shank on them, and the know how to kill someone threatening them, but Ive known hundreds of female backpackers, none of them who carry a pistol, and none of them have ever had a problem. We can all agree that we are more likely to be assaulted in urban and suburban areas, and no, I dont feel it necessary to carry a pistol around town either.

I've always wanted to go skeet shooting from El Cap Tower. All ethical/environmental considerations aside, the thought of that really makes me smile.

pasto wrote:anti-gun? We can all agree that we are more likely to be assaulted in urban and suburban areas, and no, I dont feel it necessary to carry a pistol around town either.

True, good point. Maybe creepy characters just stand out to me more in remote areas, than say in a Jack-In-The-Box parking lot where we wouldn't be packing. Possibly because I know I don't have cell coverage, or witnesses in remote areas, and our bodies probably wouldn't be found for days, weeks, months, or years, and the
killer(s) would most likely never be caught; I'll have to think that one out, next time we're thinking about packing on a remote desert excursion. : )

And Tea is right, proper training is the key; practice makes perfect, great point by Laurie too. : )

what happened to my post? Strange.

Yes...Laurie's post is great. if you aren't 100% sure you can use a weapon under pressure probably best not to have one.

I'm not always packing, but going to the more popular "out of the way" type places I'll be more likely to. But anytime anybody is in control of a potentially dangerous object, I pray they have the practice and experience to wield it; just because somebody CAN have it, doesn't mean they SHOULD... just look at 50% of the drivers on the road... eek!

Firearms are cool

Here is a photo of my firearms.

Tea & Wehling ~

I am TOTALLY one of those people! Even with 9 years in the military I still don't feel comfortable enough to have one strapped to my hip (thankfully I'm in the Air Force :)

I promise I'm a MUCH better driver, though...so at least I won't kill you on your WAY to the park ;)

Will Butler wrote:I've always wanted to go skeet shooting from El Cap Tower. All ethical/environmental considerations aside, the thought of that really makes me smile.

Now this is something i want to see......

2000' up on EL Cap skeet shooting from a portal ledge!!!