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How do you do it... I am struggling....

Mike C · · Sweden · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 30

Well, personally I can't wait the 5 days you are talking about. However, I do have to wait 5 days before getting outside. I know indoor climbing doesn't do it for many people, but for me it helps me through the week. Climbing indoors after work sucks compaired to climbing outside, but not climbing at all sucks oh so much more.

Evan1984 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 30

Look at it as a means to an end, which is sounds like you are doing.

Look at the job philosophically. Self denial-the ability to forstall gratification, comforts, and fun for a greater reward-is a virtue that has gotten many climbers to the top. This job is just self-denial to attain the life summit.

Realize that at our young age, the temporary can seem very permanent.

How's that for a pile of liberal crap that's supposed to make you feel better? I still think it holds truth.

Evan

John mac · · Boulder, CO · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 105

Quit. Life is too short to be miserable 50 hours a week. I am in the same boat and just quite. (This is my last week at work!) Everyone also told me I am crazy to quit in this Economy but you can't plan your life around what the rest of the world is doing. With that said I don't have kids or really any responsibility and am not looking for another job, instead traveling, so the economy effects me less than most.

Edit to fix my first grade spelling errors.

Mike Lane · · AnCapistan · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 880
Anthony Milano wrote:Thanks for all of your help... To be fair-Its half office and half big-box retail and there are days where I have to do laps around the outside of the store to keep from punching random demanding customers... I know this will happen everywhere.
I used to work occasional Saturdays at Home Depot as the resident Master Plumber; my job was simply to be there for questions. Seemed like easy money. There were times when I'd have 7-8 people in line just waiting for their turn to come up to me and say something completely retarded.
The movie "Sixth Sense" was still recent. We used to whisper to each other: "I see dumb people. They're everywhere. They don't know they're dumb.."
So anyway, I'd suggest embracing Buddhism. Either that, or get out of retail before you devolve into a complete sociopath.
Jon B · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 105

The key is simple. What it is about climbing that many like is the reward for hard work. You work hard, give it you best, and you get to witness your sucsess first hand. It gives you immediate satisfaction. It makes you want to just climb, and everything else is a waste. There lies the problem. People that hate there jobs tend to relish in all that is bad about it. The trick, is simple, and it applies to everything. No matter what you do, give it 110%. There is no way that if a person does there absolute best, that you can come away disgruntled. Maybe the job isn't your career, but excelling at what you do now will pay off later. What ever it is you do, go into it as if you want to be the best, and work towards perfecting the tasks you do. You might find some enjoyment it the fact that you are good at what you do, even if it isn't what you want to do. Besides, climbing will always be there, and a job may not.

pooler · · Albany, NY · Joined Sep 2009 · Points: 20

If it was fun it wouldn't be called work

Monomaniac · · Morrison, CO · Joined Oct 2006 · Points: 17,295
Anthony Milano wrote:I have taken comic relief in The Office...
Office Space not The Office. Its a movie by Mike Judge.

Watch the cornhole bud!
Jasmine Kall · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2008 · Points: 40

I tend to climb so hard on the weekends that I need a few days to recover. During the summer I head up to the mountains on friday night and get back into town early monday morning.. I can't remember mondays much because I am too tired to care. Tuesday I am still sore. Wednesdays I climb at the gym. Thursdays I pack. Fridays I leave at 5pm... Plan trips and train.

richard magill · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 2,400

Rather than going to work, most of us would rather be skiing, or climbing, or fishing, or masturbating, or whatever....

But none of that is likely to pay the bills or get anything meaningful accomplished.

P LaDouche · · CO · Joined Apr 2007 · Points: 15
Anthony Milano wrote:This post does not apply to people who love their job. How do you do it? Working a job for 50-60 hours you can barely stand, how do you stay employed? I ask this because I am working in an office of which kills me on the inside a little more each day. All I want to do is climb. All I can think of is being outside. I definitely make my days off count and take quite a few personal days. But how do you deal with the five days of Monotony before you climb again? Sit there and dream? Tease yourself about what you could be doing? I am not trying to complain. I am working towards a job I will eventually love but for now-is not happenin. I just wanted to know if anyone out there has any ways of dealing with this... Any help/advice is appreciated! Thanks.
Smoke a ton of dope, it works for millions out there.
Cant get no pay with no raise.
Wiled Horse · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2002 · Points: 3,669
Monomaniac wrote: Office Space
classic.
Eric D · · Gnarnia · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 235

A friend of mine was planning on taking a year off of work and just climbing. He had a good job as an engineer. When he told his bosses and colleagues about his plan, their responce was shock at first, but he said that many of his older colleagues told him "I wish I had done that sort of thing at some point when I was young."

So, thinking long-term is important, but thinking short-term is too. It's a balance.

Wiled Horse · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2002 · Points: 3,669

you either have time or money. rarely a lot of both. unless you are supported by someone else or retired.

you just have to decide what is important to you. but, FWIW, i know what you are going through. i have seen both sides of the fence, and its all green... just different shades sometimes. when you all find the balance everyone talks about, let me know the trick.

anthony, may be a dumb question, but why are you choosing to work so many hours?

Andy Laakmann · · Bend, OR · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,990

The four components of life: family, work, play, and maintenance.

Step 1: love what you do for work, then work = play
Step 2: minimize or remove all maintenance

Result = only family and play. Happiness.

Bottom line: find something you love to do for work. We all have to be productive members of society IMO (and thus work), but the secret is to find something you love.

What do you love to do that benefits others? Find it, and do it.

madmike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 0

I hear you bro. I just got canned from my job after 11 years. Poured my heart and soul into the place and then one day I was told to get the !@$%$ out. Hopefully with no reason to get rid of me unemployment will kick in. Haven't seen a check yet. Oh well, I guess I'll go skiing.

I thought my job was the shit. But now looking back on it, I was just the guy doing all the work so somebody else could go and play.
If I were you I would ditch that job. Live to climb, climb to live.

Thank god it happened, the world is thick with opportunity, and I would have rotted in that store for another 10 years. Only problem is I can't find another job. But hey, my friends and family are great. I have the best wife on the planet. And I am healthy.

Now all kinds of time to play but still trying to buy food and pay the bills. So no matter what your situation is the grass is always greener on the otherside.

Live in the now and take into account that great love and great achievements involve great risk.

John mac · · Boulder, CO · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 105
Eric D wrote:A friend of mine was planning on taking a year off of work and just climbing. He had a good job as an engineer. When he told his bosses and colleagues about his plan, their responce was shock at first, but he said that many of his older colleagues told him "I wish I had done that sort of thing at some point when I was young." So, thinking long-term is important, but thinking short-term is too. It's a balance.
Thats exactly what all of my older colleagues told me! My thought is I might as well enjoy life now rather than push to retirement when who knows what my health will be.
slim · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2004 · Points: 1,103

i am very fortunate that i have a great job, and work for a company that treats me very very very well. i work on great projects, work with great people. it's, well, ... great.

but everyday i feel like i am having an anxiety attack because i want to climb instead. its like i am pacing the floor like a lunatic. i wish i could live in stereo or something.

what keeps me going is 'the plan'. my wife and i have a plan to retire about 5 years from now (when i turn 40). then we will basically live out of our truck and climb every day. it takes a lot of effort to stay on 'the plan', but i think it will be worth it. in the mean time, i just climb as much as possible.

i envy the kids today that can take off from work for months (or years) at a time, but the vast majority of the people that i know that are doing this have absolutely no plan for the future (or are trustafarians, which don't count). i think this is kind of a recipe for disaster, particularly considering that in today's economy you have to always be shaking to keep from becoming obsolete. i think the service industry will even be pretty obsolete in the next 20 years. robots are have a lot better people skills than most kids these days.

Olaf Mitchell · · Paia, Maui, Hi, · Joined Mar 2007 · Points: 4,190

I retired ten years ago to live my dream and never regretted it ! Now I am glad to be back at work and crossing my fingers that it lasts for a long time to come.
Being unemployed is terifying unless you have saved and planned !

Schiffhauer · · Bakersfield · Joined May 2004 · Points: 90

As unmotivated as I may sound to some, I always try to follow the guide of "making the most money, with the least amount of responsibility."

I work as a geologic technician in the petroleum industry. I bust my but, but when 5 o'clock rolls around, I don't think about work until I have to get up the next morning to go at it again.

half-pad-mini-jug · · crauschville · Joined Apr 2008 · Points: 1,740

I also hate my job, climb as much as you can, its the only way to stay sane... Oh, and smoke a lot of 'medicine', that helps too.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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