Redpoint Climbers Supply of Smith Rock Robbed

Hey everyone,

I'm letting everyone know this, just in case someone runs into someone that's selling gear that just doesn't sound right.

Last night my shop was broken into, and everything was taken and I really do mean everything. I haven't done an actually inventory yet. But ballpark, 50 draws, 100 carabiners, 14 ropes, 4 sets of cams, 5 sets of nuts, 10 down jackets, etc etc etc etc. So please, please, keep an eye out for anything suspicious if you're buying something second hand from someone. I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Eric

A bump, and also some more information.

If anyone finds out anything here is some contact information. You can either call me, 541-923-6207. Or the best bet is the local sheriff's office. Their phone number is 541-693-6911. The Sheriff in charge of the case is Gary Cima, but you can talk to anyone else there as well.

I'm working on the inventory right now, and will have a pretty long list of items stolen, so you know what to be on the look out for. Thanks for all the support.

Eric

Alright, here's the list..... it's a doozy

Metolius
Supercam Small and Medium
Master Cams 00, 0, 6, 7
Master Cams Offsets 00-7
Ultralight TCUs 00-4
Power Cams 00-8
Astro Nuts x 2
Ultralight nuts 10x 2, 9, 8, 7, 5, 4, 3, 1
BRD x 4
Freenut x 3
Extractor x 4
Enviro Rap Hanger x 6
8 step Aider
4 step Aider x 2
5 step aider x 2
Gear slings x 2
Double D Gear slings x 2
Simulator
Grip saver plus
Big Wall Pants x 4
Big Wall Shorts x 4
Dyno Pant x 4
Dyno Shorts x 4
Nylon Daisy x 3
Monster Daisy x 2
Easy Daisy x 2
Superchalk half pound x 4
Superchalk quarter pound x 6
Tape x 6
Monster Slings 22” x 6
Monster Slings 46” x 6

BD
C3s 000-2
C4s 3, 4x2, 5, 6
N-Force x 3
Firewire QD x 3
Hotwire QD x 2
Micro nuts x 2
Stoppers 1x 4, 2 x 2, 3-6, 9-13
Wired Hexes 1-11
Yosemite Hammer
ATC-Guide x 5
ATC XP x 4
ATC x 2
Super 8 x 3
Neutrino x 2
Oz
Livewire x 6
Dynotron x 4
Positron Straight x 10
Positron Bent x 10
Quicksilver Straight x 10
Quicksilver Bent x 4
Ovalwire x 5
Oval x 4
Light D x 4
Vaporlock x 6
Mini Pear x 6
Rock lock x 6
Rocklock Twist lock x 6
Livewire QD x 12
Freewire QD x 3
OZ QD x 12
Quickwire QD 18 cm x 12
Quickwire QD 12 cm x 12
Quicksilver QD 18 cm x 12
Quicksilver QD 12 cm x 12
Fifi x 2
RURP x 2
Cliffhanger
Pulley
Variwidth x 6
Raven Ice axe x 6
Tracer
Kids Tracer
Sabretooth Left Foot
Contact Right Foot
5 step aider x 2
6 step aider x 2
Padded Gear Sling
Forearm Trainger
Firstlight
Hilight
Skylight
Dynex Daisy Chain 115cm x 3
Dynex Daisy Chain 140cm x 3
Nylon Daisy Chain 115 x 3
Nylon Daisy Chain 140 x 3
Nylon Sling 30cm x 10
Nylon Sling 60cm x 3
Dynex Sling 30cm x 10
Dynex Sling 60cm x 6
Dynex Sling 120cm x 6

Petzl
Ascension x 5
Shunt
Croll x 3
Basics x 3
Pro-traxion
Mini Traxion x 2
Oscillante x 2
Pantin
Rescue Pulley
Ultralegre
Mini
Spirit Straights x 5
Locker SL x 5
William SG x 8
William Ball Lock x 10
William Triact Lock x 12
AMD SG x 5
AMD Ball Lock x 5
AMD Triact lock x 12
Freino x 5
OK Screwlock x 3
Attache x 3
Attache Hera x 3
Spirit Express 17cm x 10
Paw Small
Paw Medium
Microcender
Rescuecender
Coeur Coujon x 6
Tibloc x 3
Express 25 cm x 5
Nitro 1 x 3
Nitro 3 x 3
Snowalker
Altios
Elios x 2
Meteor III
Vasak Sidelock Right Foot
Cordex Gloves tan x 5
Cordex Gloves Black x 5
Cordex plus Gloves Tan x 5
Zephyr 70m
Nomad 60m
Nomad 70m

DMM
Bugette
Zodiac 12mm QL x 2
Phantom QD 12cm x 12
Wallnuts 11x 2, 10, 9, 7, 3, 2, 1
Aluminum Offsets 7, 9, 11
Phantom x 4
Steel Bent Gate
Shadow QD 18cm x 4
Shadow QD 12cm x 4
Dogbones 12cm x 4 18cm x 10 25 cm x 10

Wild country
Superlight Rocks 1-6 x 2
Peanuts x 2
Rocks 1-8, 12-14
Variable Controller
Ropeman 1
Ropeman 2

Yates
Pinhead
Double Copperheads x 2

Pika
Z-pitons x 3

Trango
Cinch
Shark x 2
Squid

MSR
Hubba Hubba x 2
Mutha Hubba
Whisperlites x 2
Whisperlites International x 2
Reactor Dragoonfly

Thermarest
Trail Pro x 2
Trail Pro W’s

Mountain Hardwear
Subzero Jackets Mens x 5
Paladin Pack x 2
Splitter Packs x 2

Dynaflex ball x 4
Dynaflex plus

Superclips x 4

Frisbees x 2

Gear Marking tape x 4

DVDs x 16

Edelweiss
Onsight 60, 70, 60 arc, 70 arc
Ally 60m
Element 60, 70, 70 arc
Flashlight 60, 70, 60 arc, 70 arc

Red Chili Sunglasses x 36 $18 sunglasses, really?

Cliff bars x 14 boxes

Yes they stole cliff bars, frisbees, gear marking tape, climbing tape and chalk

This is just infuriating. I was at Smith on Saturday and everyone was incredulous that this happened.

That's horrible! Were you literally cleaned out (maybe random thieves?), or was there enough "picking and choosing" that you think it was climbers that did it?

Abram Herman wrote:That's horrible! Were you literally cleaned out (maybe random thieves?), or was there enough "picking and choosing" that you think it was climbers that did it?

The thieves even took all the chalk.

Surely the following post is not related, but just in case (brand new gear, quickdraws and C3):

mountainproject.com/v/for_s…

best.

This needs to be cross-posted at every climbing related website.

supertopo.com
rockclimbing.com
summitpost.com
cascadeclimbers.com
gunks.com

Those are all the big ones I can think of. Feel free to post any others to the list.

That is one SHIT LOAD of bad climbing Karma right there! Man, I'm sorry, wow, that really sucks. Do you want me to call the Sheriff or shoot first?

Bump and semi update.

Bad news first. Insurance will not cover theft. Turns out I only had liability insurance. I thought insurance was like car insurance, all aspects are covered, just depends how much coverage and how big your deductible is. Biggest mistake of my life, ever.

Other fact, not sure if this is good or bad. Alarm went off, but Sheriff's station was never notified about the alarm. Either when I switched phone companies they messed with the line, or the people I use to monitor the alarm messed up. I pay a place in Redmond for the alarm, and they sub-contract it out to a bigger place in Portland to monitor. I don't know if anyone is a lawyer, but if anyone is at fault, would it be the right move to sue? I don't want to be that "guy" who sues....

Some Good news, the restaurant across the street has a camera that faces the parking lot and pretty much the door they broke in through. So once the police get the footage they should have a good lead. They'll have how many people, the make and model of the vehicle and a license plate. So thieves if you're reading this, just hand back the stuff, all will be forgiven and we'll just forget about this.

Thanks for all the support everyone.
Eric
p.s. this has been posted on rockclimbing.com, mountain project, super topo, smith rock.com and cascade climbers. If anyone wants to cross post this to any other sites, i don't mind, just couldn't think of any others that get as much traffic.

J. Albers wrote:Surely the following post is not related, but just in case (brand new gear, quickdraws and C3): mountainproject.com/v/for_s… best.

I know you're trying to help, but his place was robbed on 1/16 at Smith Rock, and this person was selling gear on 1/3 in CO. So unless they have a time machine transporter, I think they have an alibi.

Not trying to be a jerk, but we have too many threads with everyone crying "thief, thief".

That being said, I do mean thanks for looking out for everyone's gear. It's nice to know that people care!! Best...

Scott McMahon wrote: I know you're trying to help, but his place was robbed on 1/16 at Smith Rock, and this person was selling gear on 1/3 in CO. So unless they have a time machine transporter, I think they have an alibi. Not trying to be a jerk, but we have too many threads with everyone crying "thief, thief". That being said, I do mean thanks for looking out for everyone's gear. It's nice to know that people care!! Best...

Scott, I did not notice the date, just the brand new gear that matched some of the gear from Red's list. I didn't yell thief, in fact I prefaced my statement by stating that "surely this is not related." That said, I think it would be wise for folks to pay attention to most things that get sold online. The reason I say this is not to encourage people to be suspicious of one another, but simply because unless you are a dumb ass thief, than you will probably be selling items in small lots that appear as though they are plausible sales of personal gear (i.e. only an idiot would show up on MP and sell the entire lot of gear that Red lost).

Nevertheless, I take no offense to your comment pointing out the date...I should have noticed. Best.

Thanks for being understanding as I really meant no offense, and don't think you were calling them a thief. Those threads get a little crazy with everyone jumping on the "thief" bandwagon.

It's good that we all look out for each other!!!

Scott McMahon wrote: It's good that we all look out for each other!!!

+1, I think that's why it bothers me so much to hear about something like this happening, it definitely puts a damper on the sense of community we have in climbing. Best of luck to Redpoint in getting back your merchandise, I hope the surveillance videos pan out and these jerkoffs are picked up in a hurry!

edit to add: I wonder if it'd be worth posting this on your local craigslist in some fashion? Seems like that might be the easiest avenue for the thieves to get rid of the dirty goods, if that is indeed their intent...

Redpoint wrote:Bump and semi update. . I don't know if anyone is a lawyer, but if anyone is at fault, would it be the right move to sue? I don't want to be that "guy" who sues.... Some Good news, the restaurant across the street has a camera that faces the parking lot and pretty much the door they broke in through. So once the police get the footage they should have a good lead.

Eric,

I am definitely against the culture of suing the restaurant when you spill hot coffee on your lap, however, in your case it would seem entirely reasonable to sue the security company. When you consider the amount of gear that got stolen (which absolutely blows my mind), than one has to come to the conclusion that it took a pretty long time to load up all of that gear into a truck. Thus, if the security system had been working at all, one would think the sheriff would have had ample time to arrive at the scene and bust these parasites. If it were me, I would contact a couple lawyers and get some information. My guess is that the security company is going to want to, at a minimum, settle this outside of court for fear of being held totally responsible.

On a positive note, after I read through all of what is missing, I can't imagine that these folks are not going to get caught via word of mouth or a slip up on their part. I just think that there is no way that THAT much gear can go missing without a 'friend of a friend' noticing that "Joe's" basement is full of gear. Something will turn up.

On that note, perhaps the best thing that the rest of us as a community can do is to spread the knowledge of this event to everyone we know. The more people at climbing gyms etc. that know about this, the better chance that someone is going to know something, put the pieces together, and contact Eric or the authorities. Perhaps it is worth pointing out to people that this is not simply a large scale retailer like REI getting ripped off, but Eric's livelihood being jeopardized.

Best of luck Eric.

Remember in Alladin when they were going to cut his hand off for stealing...when these thieves are caught their hands should go so they can never climb again (words from the taoist)...ha ha

They certainly will have some serious gear laundering to do to avoid getting caught.

Holy shit that's a lot of gear. Dude, I sincerely hope that you can find out who stole your stuff and get most of it back. As someone above mentioned it seems unlikely that they will be able to unload that much stuff without somebody noticing. Back when I was involved in skydiving big ticket gear would come up missing from time to time from a given skydiving center only to be walked into a neighboring skydiving place a few weeks later for sale by some retarded hoodlum. Unfortunately, I guess with climbing gear there aren't any identifying marks like serial numbers that can be easily tracked. That sucks.

BD cams have lot numbers on them, and I'd expect most other cams and major hardware do as well. Might be able to track down the lot numbers through your purchase if you weren't anal enough to write them down.

Bump/ Update.

Yesterday I was on the phone all day calling gyms, climbing shops and consignment stores from the bay area to Vancouver, Canada. I sent them a list and a flyer of what brands were stolen and who to contact if they have any information. I didn't contact many gyms in the bay, just the touchstone group ones. So if any of you want to give out more flyers to the gyms in that area or even farther south, please do. I will not mind at all.

I'm looking into the old employees, and would be shocked if any of them took it. There's only one I can think of and that person lives in southern CA. But I guess this would be worth the trip. I've only owned the shop since August, so I don't have ex-employees.

I'm still looking into the alarm company, and am waiting for some more information to come. I have to look over the contract, and contact some other 3rd party to get a second opinion. It looks like this might be a lead, just need more information. I have been in contact with my lawyer about all of this.

Still waiting on the security tape, oi, it's taking forever.

Again thanks for all support, everyone.
Eric

Hi Eric,
Do you have a copy of the flier that you want posted? I climb at the Touchstone gym in Sacramento and perhaps I can get them to put something up. You can probably post it to your MP account as an image and the rest of us can print it from there.
Best.

So you had an alarm and it didn't work and these guys cleaned you out almost completely? The fact that it wasn't a simple smash and grab leads me to think they knew you and your business fairly well. How long would it take to remove all that stuff? Sounds like a betrayal to me.

Either way that is completely lame. Hopefully this will work out in the long run for you.