movement gym, boulder, co

I was wondering if people are finding that Movement is really busy. The BRC has been pretty quiet lately.
Do you have to wait around for routes at all?

Don't often have to wait for routes but lead ropes can take a while to get during their busy times...

Compared to the climbing gym I am used to climb in on the East coast (Carabiners Climbing in MA) I found the routes in the 5.10-5-12 range at movement very easy. I've never been to other gym in Co. How does it compare with BRC for instance?
Other than that it's clean, the architecture is definitely nice and the routes are OK.

I've talked to some employees at the BRC and they have said overall membership hasn't really dropped much since Movement opened. It does seem less crowded, but not drastically so. When the cold weather hits and stays put in the next couple weeks we'll see how that all is really gonna play out. The BRC dropped their prices slightly, are offering a cross membership with The Spot, and more free fitness classes for members. I personally have always found the staff there to be friendly enough. Can you really expect, and do you really want everyone working at a gym to go out of their way to say "hi" and chat you up when you're there? I guess there's an "elitist" attitude sometimes, but no one is ever rude, and the fact is there are a lot of "elite" climbers there, so what's the problem? Movement is a fantastic gym, the facility is great, the routes are well set, but the health club atmosphere turns me off a little. My guess is more people than you think have memberships or punch cards to both places. What's my point? I don't have one, except I still climb at the BRC and always will.

Phil Lauffen wrote:I just remembered though... I dislike the music at movement the most out of any of the other gyms. It doesn't get me excited to climb and its too quiet. Not that I'd want some of the music they play to be any louder.

That reminds me, We were saying THANK GOD ITS NOT F'ing TECHNO while we were there. A huge downer at the BRC. I preferred the music at teh spot to anyhere though. Mellow and not too loud.

I know it's not important, but how do people feel about the name "movement"?

Tony B wrote: That reminds me, We were saying THANK GOD ITS NOT F'ing TECHNO while we were there. A huge downer at the BRC. I preferred the music at teh spot to anyhere though. Mellow and not too loud.

haha I was gonna say I wish it was moby and louder.

darn young 'uns with their eeelek tronic musik.

are there any cracks at movement? my only real complaint with BRC is that the routesetting pretty much assumes that rifle is the only climbing place within 500 miles. too much contortion and throwing for slopers. most of the climbing around boulder is crimpy and technical, which is hard to find at BRC. last spring, after my winter BRC season, i had lost about a number grade due to my crimping strength being totally gone.

you should give the Spot a try. plenty of crimps to be found there.

I gotta admit that after all the hype, I was disappointed with Movement. My big complaint with Movement is the lack of variety in terrain. Your choices are either vertical climbs, or wicked near horizontal roof climbing. That's great if your local crag of choice is the Pipe Dream or the Arsenal, but not very good training for most types of outdoor climbing. The BRC has much better choices in slightly to moderately overhung terrain.

I would have loved to have ditched the BRC, but the lack of variety and high price of Movement means that probably won't happen.

(re-post from here: mountainproject.com/v/climb…)

My winter indoor workouts are often by myself over my lunch break just running laps on an auto-belay. Does Movement have auto-belays? Are the BRC's still up and running?

Thanks,
Adam

AJS wrote:(re-post from here: mountainproject.com/v/climb…) My winter indoor workouts are often by myself over my lunch break just running laps on an auto-belay. Does Movement have auto-belays? Are the BRC's still up and running? Thanks, Adam

Probably not right now...
grough.co.uk/magazine/2009/…

AJS wrote:My winter indoor workouts are often by myself over my lunch break just running laps on an auto-belay. Does Movement have auto-belays? Are the BRC's still up and running?

MSA distributed a "stop use" notice for all MSA Redpoint Descenders, which the BRC uses. I don't know which ones that Movement uses, but there is a possible defect in a one-way bearing of these autobelays that could cause the unit to fail. I believe that they are tracking the problem down to a certain set of autobelays and then will issue a limited recall, but this is just conjecture. Until then I wouldn't use any MSA Redpoint Descenders, even if the gym left them up.

slim wrote:are there any cracks at movement? my only real complaint with BRC is that the routesetting pretty much assumes that rifle is the only climbing place within 500 miles. too much contortion and throwing for slopers. most of the climbing around boulder is crimpy and technical, which is hard to find at BRC. last spring, after my winter BRC season, i had lost about a number grade due to my crimping strength being totally gone.

yes.

2.

one you can lead. goes at like 5.12 the other like 5.9 and wider.

J Jenk wrote:I was wondering if people are finding that Movement is really busy. The BRC has been pretty quiet lately. Do you have to wait around for routes at all?

Movement
It's real busy on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday starting as early as 430pm till 830pm. If you stay off of the big overhanging wall you'll be golden. You may not be able to get on exactly what you want, but there will be available places to climb.

The bouldering is rarely busy. I'm a fan of the bouldering, but I didn't join up to boulder. However it's got nearly every angle that you would want in a plywood style bouldering area.

I find the "elitest" a pain in the ass sometimes. For example if you and your partner are on a particular route and one goes and it's the next persons turn, I've had people jump right in front of me on the exact route my partner just got off of. Does this really bother me? Not really I'm used to fighting my way into a wave surfing, or dropping into a bowl skateboarding. Will it bother other people, yes.

Probably not right now... grough.co.uk/magazine/2009/…

Just came from BRC, still down, saw em' gettin stowed in a closet a couple days ago, find a partner or boulder.

i am a big fan of movement so far.

being a climber, skier, runner and one who likes general fitness, they have it all. the climbing is by far better than the brc; the setting is much better and the terrain is more varied with overhangs, vertical, and two arches. the bouldering is solid and i appreciate the v grading system which seems to be in line with flagstaff grading. the gym equipment is solid along with the treadmills, etc. although i have yet to use any of the classes, it's pretty cool that yoga and spinning classes are free with your membership. also, they have seasonal cross-training classes like ski-fit right now.

i'd also agree with the level of professionalism at the brc was lacking. i'd frequently go in there and feel as if i were trespassing. movement's staff has been nothing but professional and nice.

coming from a quality gym in earth treks in md, i can say this is definitely another solid gym beating out the brc and the spot easily. yes, the spot can't be beaten with amount of bouldering, but their elitist attitude, crappy setting, and lack of other offerings makes it useless for me to go to.

lastly- as of this month, movement is the only gym to be featured on the front of a climbing mag - see urban climber. that says something.

just checked out the rates for movement and noticed they charge a $75 fee to start up electronic funds transfer. yikes, that's pretty over-the-top.

BRC definitely needs to get their climbing treadmill in shape now that the autobelays are down. the treadmill is in really sorry shape, so its hard to get any sort of enduro workout. usually this wouldn't be a problem, but most of my old partners are climbing at movement these days.

the lack of crowds sure has been nice though...

I talked with Tony Yao the other day about the treadwall and he said he's going to work on it soon. They've had a big route setting push lately after a comp, but thats died down, so it should get worked on soon.

Send him an email with your thoughts or suggestions. He's nice guy.

tom selleck wrote:I know it's not important, but how do people feel about the name "movement"?

I had one as soon as I read the threads title.