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Cameron Walker · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 5

I've been loathing buying a car. I don't particularly like paying insurance or fuel, but you do what you must; it's better than being marooned, stranded, stuck- at home.

Anyway, I would like some input from all you fellow dirt bags: what is the best cheap car to get? And by best I mean hardest to kill, longest running, light impact crash worthiness, clearance for dirt roads, best gas mileage, room for gear and crap, snow/ ice performance, and, again, hardest to kill. Something I can strap an extra tire on the roof and mount a skull on the radiator and still go 75, or 80...

I'm pretty good about keeping the oil and fluids up but I'm not too mechanically inclined- especially on anything with too many electronics.

I've been thinking:
toyota tercel, honda civic 4 door, ford escort wagon, molester van and the like. I'm privy to a tercel because I've previously owned one, but it was kinda cramped, but it was only a 2 door.

oh yea, keep it under 2k...

Thanks for any input.

climber73 · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined Mar 2007 · Points: 185

I would go with a 2wd Toyota Tacoma. You should be able to get one w/ 100k miles on it for on the order of $2k, and you'll get at least another 100k out of it. Get a cheap topper and you have a home on wheels.

W.S. · · Montana · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 65

!990s Subaru Legacy or Loyale. They're ubiquitous for a reason. They're cheap, roomy, 4wd with usually enough clearance (the newer, generally the less off-road capable), reliable, and pretty dirtbaggy. Plus, you can fold down the seats and sleep in the back. The newer ones will do better on the highway, but my 1992 Loyale rarely gets going faster than 75. It does get 25mpg, though.

JPVallone · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2004 · Points: 195

Honda Element, I call them toasters, but if you have the coin check out this link, they only do this to elements.

ursaminorvehicles.com/campe…

They may not look pretty, but function before fasion

Evan S · · Denver, Co · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 510

Under 2k people, come on now. The subies are great, but you're seeing less and less of them from the late 80's / early 90's for a reason. I'd definitely go with one from that time period rather than mid 90's when they seemed to have a lot more stupid/expensive problems. As was mentioned above, a little old Toy or Nissan pickup is a great idea. I picked up a '94 ford aerostar 4wd minivan for $1900 a few years ago, and it was one of the best vehicles I've ever owned, I put about 20k miles on it, including a few big road trips, and lots of mountain and dirt road driving, and the only problem I ever had was a blown oil pressure line, so essentially nothing. Maybe I got lucky with that one, but I really like those vans. Otherwise, those toyota 4x4 station wagons have a good rep. I'd personally go '92 to '94 Ford (no later, seriously, forget post '95) or asian and common, so there's lots of parts.

Kevin McLaughlin · · Colorado Springs · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 1,540

The Toyota 22R motor is the longest running ,lowest maintenance motor in automotive history. They come in trucks and cars. 4 cylinder,good milage....... You can't beat a Toyota.

Bad Sock Puppet · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 510

Yeah dude a Toyota tacoma w/camper shell makes for a great home!

Jacob Krenn · · Boulder, CO · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 120

Screw budget! Get a Dodge Sprinter and pimp that shit out!!!

... or follow this thread... mountainproject.com/v/climb….

Drew Whitley · · Dolores, CO · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 95

vw vanagon syncro! roomie and kills it offroad and on snow

EMT · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2008 · Points: 205
Jacob Krenn wrote:Screw budget! Get a Dodge Sprinter and pimp that shit out!!! ... or follow this thread... mountainproject.com/v/climb….
ding ding ding!!!! brother you speak the truth. Dodge sprinter is the way.
Sam Lightner, Jr. · · Lander, WY · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 2,732

Best climbing vehicle = any rental car

Jacob Krenn · · Boulder, CO · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 120
Sam Lightner, Jr. wrote:Best climbing vehicle = any rental car
Unless your a lawyer, Dr., or Trustafarian, no one can afford a rental car for a real road trip unless your slanging herbs along the way, in which case, you want to be in someone else's car. Sorry Brah, we're speaking realistically here.
England · · Colorado Springs · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 270

I paid $2300 for my 97 outback, and i love it!

Andrew Caraballo · · Milwaukie, OR · Joined Sep 2009 · Points: 530

Subie!!!

Forestvonsinkafinger · · Iowa · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 2,090

I would actually agree with sam...if you are already doing fine without a car. Hitch to the local crag and save your money for rentals on your trips. Cars eat your money alive. I do have a 69 VW bus though, and I must agree, it is the best auto I have had for getting around in snow and off road, and it is 2wd.

Mike Soucy · · Longmont, CO · Joined May 2006 · Points: 111

I've got a 95 Legacy Wagon with well over 200k on it and would recommend it any day. However, if I were to buy a vehicle strictly for climbing and skiing-related travels and shelter, it would be either a mid-90's Toyota Previa or Chevy Astro van. Both all wheel drive, easily livable, and running on notoriously dependable engines.

Jaaron Mankins · · Durango, CO · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 930

Second the suby or try a Toyota Previa Van. Picked up ours for 4k, all wheel drive and supercharged. Comfy, plenty of room, and will go alot of places-yes it is a 22R motor as well. Spend little more than 2k. 2k will get you a car, but is will probably need work. Spend it now, or spend it later!!!

Mike Lane · · AnCapistan · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 880

When you are dealing with that low of a budget, you simply get the best vehicle that you can find for that price. The cash for clunkers program greatly reduced what is available to you.
Speaking on general terms, any Toyota under $2K will be on its deathbed.
You would most likely find the highest chance of a Subaru lasting a while, but plan on a $6-700.00 timing belt job w/in a year. You might actually want to consider a bike with saddlebags, definitely get more from a mechanical point of view. Another idea is team up w/ some other fellow capital-challenged compadres for a community vehicle if its just for cragging

Cameron Walker · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 5

Thanks for all the input. I'm leaning toward the toyota vans (86-89 or so) or the previa (early 90's) Also perhaps a subuaru.
safe travels

Adam Bunger · · Someplace in the Northeast · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 1,025

There's a reason Subarus are ubiquitous at crags across the country.

Malcolm Daly · · Hailey, ID · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 380

If I could do it in this forum I'd RT @KevinMcGlaughlin's comment on the Toyota 22R engine. Find yourself an early 4 cyl Tacoma 4WD and put a topper on it. Rig the back like I have below and you've got yourself a great road trip rig.

The flat deck makes a great bed if you carpet it. Keep it high enough to get a full-height Action packer underneath.



Split the bed the long way. Then you can get a bike or two in the back and still sleep.


The entire rig goes in and out in a couple of minutes with 2 cam straps.

Best,
Mal
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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