Weight Loss & Periodization
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Hey All. There is so much good info on this forum and I figured I would pick your brains for some more. |
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I think it is unlikely that you will die, but who knows. I suppose you might get struck by lightning while out on a run or something. Hope not. |
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Read this 2 part article. Ignore that he's talking about weight lifting since both that and climbing are just different forms of resistance training. The principles of losing fat while maintaining strength are the same. Also consider doing intervals on one of your running days, not essential though. |
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I'd train heavy and then loose the weight. Actually, I'd train fat and then keep the weight, but if I had will power I'd loose it. |
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Awesome guys..that all makes sense and is very helpful. |
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Hi Daniel, |
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Aerili already beat me to it, but if you think you're overweight, then I'm a f@&$-ing fatass! I'm 5'8 (on a good day) and I fluctuate between 160 and 165. I do have very sexy legs, though, unlike most male climbers with their sickly, chicken legs. |
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Aerili: Thanks for the pointers. I just dropped my BMI in there because I recently found out what it is. I realize now that it doesnt mean much...I am very interested in the more intense runs though. I guess it was just the cyclist in me that was saying to go long. |
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I've been doing circuit type workouts since this past winter and have seen good results. I know I could push myself a little harder but I'm kinda lazy in that respect. I now have to cinch my belt up one more hole which I haven't done in probably 10 years. |
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I agree with Sam, it is a waste to loose weight during your strength phase...that is your resistance dude. Trimming down right before your peak will do wonders for your strength to weight. |
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Mike Anderson wrote:I do have very sexy legs, though, unlike most male climbers with their sickly, chicken legs.Hear, hear! Mike Anderson wrote:Aerili, I would be very interested to learn more of the specifics of the "ladder drills" and such that you described. Care to share?First you have to have a ladder. They are a bit expensive, depending on the length desired and whether you want a single or double ladder. I guess you could make your own, but I don't think it would be as good. They seem to run around $120+ through companies like Perform Better, etc. although I am sure there are better deals to be had. I do mostly the kind of drills I would put a mainstream athlete through for agility and speed training. There are umpteen number of footwork patterns one could come up with; I often try to make up new and more complex patterns for myself, run them backward, and/or add in twisting hops, etc. Kind of hard to describe--more of a show-it-now-do-it exercise. Doug, I don't focus on "rep" numbers with ladders--rather fatigue and breakdown in performance is a better indicator. Although I don't think what you're calling ladder drills is the same as what I'm referring to. You seem to have a list of just a bunch of various different kind of exercises targeting all different kinds of strength and endurance all over the body that have nothing to do with actual ladder drills. I like Mountain Athlete but they are not marketing anything that could be considered "new." Great to point it out for people who don't know about it, though. Daniel wrote:My main issue with my diet is that I sometimes, and more frequently lately, simply eat too much in one sitting. It is something I really have to work on.I would say this is a huge part in cutting weight. Cutting the calories really makes a difference, especially when you get closer and closer to your target (as it takes more and more effort to get a smaller and smaller change when you are at normal weight and body fat levels). |
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Daniel wrote:I used to race bicycles full time and was down to 150 (and super unhealthy.)What's wrong with being 5'10 and 150? I'm 5'11 and at around 145 right now and I'm climbing a full grade harder, while running and riding faster as well. I was 15-20lbs heavier a few months ago and decided to cut meat out of my diet, but not entirely so not to get sick. My weight dropped with similar levels of activities. |
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That explains it! I just thought that guy in your avatar photo had his upper molars removed. :) |
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That picture was taken before I lost weight! |
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Daniel wrote:I guess it was just the cyclist in me that was saying to go long.In cycling the go long and steady is only really to build base fitness. If you read up on any current cycling training everything is based on interval training once you've built a good base, your body needs to be able to put up with the real training before you start. Mike Anderson wrote:I do have very sexy legs, thoughThe brothers Anderson's calves look as though they would taste great slow roasted on a spit, YUM. Aerili wrote:First you have to have a ladder. They are a bit expensive.... They seem to run around $120+ through companies like Perform Better, etc. although I am sure there are better deals to be had.I do mostly the kind of drills I would put a mainstream athlete through for agility and speed training. There are umpteen number of footwork patterns one could come up with; I often try to make up new and more complex patterns for myself, run them backward, and/or add in twisting hops, etc. Kind of hard to describe--more of a show-it-now-do-it exerciseI'm just guessing that this is not a typical ladder that one would climb up or else these excersises seem as though they could be potentially very dangerous. JLP wrote:Your weight is mostly due to the food you eat, not how much you exercise. I know many who are "fit and fat". The easiest and best way to loose weight is to cut the crap food out of your diet. Post your exact food intake for 2-3 days and see what the thinner people here think of it.I was always under the impression your weight was a combination of several things, one of which is what you eat (as in the break down of different typs of fats, carbs and protines). How much fuel you burn is another factor as well which is influenced but how much you excersice as well as ones resting metabolic rate. Also just because someone is thin does not mean that they know a thing about eating well. Some might, while others just could never put on weight even with a gun to their heads. |
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LeeAB wrote: The brothers Anderson's calves look as though they would taste great slow roasted on a spit, YUM.Remind me never to attempt a mid-winter crossing of the Sierra Nevada with you. |
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Lee- Im pretty familiar with current cycling training trends.I guess it was vague when I said "used to race"..I stopped racing full time about 18 months ago and was at the CAT-1 level for 4 years before that...starting at age 18. I was a full time 'cross racer and also did much of the road season at a very high level. We always use the long steady time to build a base, but also to shed unwanted weight, as part of gaining that base fitness. Which is why when I think of running to lose some fat, I associate that with a 6-8hr tempo ride...I am coming to understand though that I was riding to become faster...but I am not running to become a better runner, therefore my approach needs to be different. |
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Losing weight while staying healthy is simple. Stop eating as many carbs as possible, eat one gram of protein per pound of body weight a day (you'll need powders, impossible [or sickening] on solid food alone, but don't use whey, it is highly insulinemic and will shut off your GH curve after a workout), and DO NOT EAT WITHIN 4 HOURS BEFORE YOU GO TO BED. It's all about GH, low carb and sugar with infrequent large meals=low insulin=high GH=no body fat, lots of muscle, quick recovery, and ketogenic mind state. Salad, steak, and pea protein, that's the ticket. |
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Mike Anderson wrote: Remind me never to attempt a mid-winter crossing of the Sierra Nevada with you.Not to worry, I'm not into that cold winter stuff that involves snow and ice, I prefer the small rocks when its cold. |
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Hey Everyone..just a quick update. Again, I thank you all for the advice, it was super helpful. |