So group camp Z is out of the park?

Unfortunately yes. I guess I would avoid climbing there unless someone wants to figure out who owns the land and asks them. However with so much climbing in the park I personally think it would be low yield to pursue that. There are nice bluffs too nearby but other than the wave boulder, the rest looks pretty mossy/licheny and some chossy, but with a lot of work some of it could clean up. That is, if someone wanted to contact the landowner. My $0.02 anyway.

There is a very good chance that this is on Bethel Horizons camp land. I've been on the land before while helping out the owner and even though a buddy of mine and I bouldered around for a bit, he definitely didn't want anyone else to climb there. Liability and all.

Looks somewhat grim and too bad. We can always try to talk to them though.

Makes sense. Lots of screaming kids last night from across the valley. Sounds like the camp is a lot of fun! Since Steve has knowledge of the camp/land owner's wishes, we should respect that until someone says differently. Lots of other areas to climb in at the Dodge.