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Rock Empire Re-Flex Cams

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Chase Gee · · Wyoming/ Logan Utah · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 105

So I was buying a butt-load of passive gear from this guy getting out of the climbing and he asked me if i would be interested in his cams. Naturally I said I would love to. He then produced Eight good looking cams which i then found out were Rock Empires. I was quite heistant until he told me he'd give me the whole set for 75 bucks...I couldn't help myself.

Now I'm not really interested in hearing how you think they're piles of shit like everyone else on the internet. I just would like to know if anyone has had experience with the Re-flex cams. I have the basic set of .25,.50,.75,1,2,3,4,5.

Thanks!

gimmesome roy · · alpine, ca · Joined Oct 2006 · Points: 110

he probably wasnt getting out of climbing, he was just probably trying to get rid of those things.... sorry but you will probably want better cams as you develop your skills.

Chase Gee · · Wyoming/ Logan Utah · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 105

I figured I would want to upgrade and replace in the near future. he had a knarly brace on so I don't think he was lying. Besides I want to master Passive before I even start screwing around with them

colin tucker · · Monticello, UT · Joined May 2007 · Points: 35

As long as they aren't all fucked up, they will work. screw around with placing them, hang on them. You'll want new cams eventually, but by the time you want them, you will know why and what to get. 75 bucks for a set of cams is a good deal, unless they are broken.

Chase Gee · · Wyoming/ Logan Utah · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 105

they are in great shape but I plan to have someone wiser than I inspect them just in case.

P.s. my band played in Laramie friday, cool little town you have there.

aluke · · PHX, AZ · Joined May 2007 · Points: 90

Are these the ones almost identical to the trango flex cams? If so they aren't all that bad, good doubles. They aren't on the website that I can see anymore.

Edit: I think the durangos are the old trango flex cam style. Probably similar build, do they have the thumb loop?

Chase Gee · · Wyoming/ Logan Utah · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 105

I can't rememeber if the Re-flexes or the Durangos are the Left over Trangos. I'll have to look.

Edit: you beat me to it, yes they do have a thumb loop.

Chase Gee · · Wyoming/ Logan Utah · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 105

this isn't the greatest photo but i'm at work and this was on my phone this is my exact set if that helps
Braxton Norwood · · Billings Montana · Joined Mar 2003 · Points: 1,370

I had some RE cams back when I started trad climbing. They held some falls just fine. They're UIAA certified, just like fancy-pants Camalots, which I believe are now made in China.

I'd give them 3 out of 4 stars. If they had a larger range and were double-axle, they'd get 4 of 4.

aluke · · PHX, AZ · Joined May 2007 · Points: 90

Those appear to be the old style trango flex cams. I have several as doubles and triples. I think they are ok, they are durable. I usually seem to reach for the forged friends, just like them.

Chase Gee · · Wyoming/ Logan Utah · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 105

Thanks Andrew and Braxton!

BirminghamBen · · Birmingham, AL · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 1,620

Forged Friends stomp these a new mud hole...my first partner rocked these...I have sailed on them, but not since I could afford C4s. Buy Camalots, Friends, or Metolius.

Nate "Mustang" Johnson · · Lake Elsinore, CA · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 200

I started out with a double set of the robots. The action isn't the smoothest, and the range isn't the best, but I have taken some good sized falls on them and they held just fine. Use them until you have money to buy nicer cams, then use them as spares. It seems that in climbing we find ourselves brand whoring, and debating the quality of different gear. I think this is funny considering the founders of our sport used crazy shit like stove legs to protect climbs.

Cheers,

Nate

Chase Gee · · Wyoming/ Logan Utah · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 105
Nate Johnson wrote: I think this is funny considering the fodders of our sport used crazy shit like stove legs to protect climbs. Cheers, Nate
I bet that cast iron was bomber!
aluke · · PHX, AZ · Joined May 2007 · Points: 90
Ben Lyon wrote:Forged Friends stomp these a new mud hole...my first partner rocked these...I have sailed on them, but not since I could afford C4s. Buy Camalots, Friends, or Metolius.
And forged friends are cheap these days (ebay), extremely durable, and lightest in weight!

I can't wait till I get the time to make my own forged friends!!

Edit: And just to clarify I use the old trango flex cams, but I am 98% sure they are almost identical.

And with the long flexible stem and doubled sling these barely walk for me.
Brett Brotherton · · Arvada, CO · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 121

I have a set of them that I got as my first set of cams, I don't see any problems with the holding, like others said the range isn't the greatest. My other complaint is the sizes are weird (ie why isn't a 1" a 1, 2" a 2 and so on), and the color coding just on the sling isn't the easiest to see compared to the camalots where its on the lobes. I use them as my doubles but definitely usually reach for the camalots first unless I want to save those for a long pitch or ones I know I may need for a more difficult section.

Chase Gee · · Wyoming/ Logan Utah · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 105
Andrew Luke wrote: And forged friends are cheap these days (ebay), extremely durable, and lightest in weight! I can't wait till I get the time to make my own forged friends!! Edit: And just to clarify I use the old trango flex cams, but I am 98% sure they are almost identical. And with the long flexible stem and doubled sling these barely walk for me.
I heard that RE was making the flexes for Trango for awhile in the same Factory as there own and Trango didn't buy them all so RE put them out. Thats one story i've heard. I've also heard they're just very similar haha.
aluke · · PHX, AZ · Joined May 2007 · Points: 90
Chase Gee wrote: I heard that RE was making the flexes for Trango for awhile in the same Factory as there own and Trango didn't buy them all so RE put them out. Thats one story i've heard. I've also heard they're just very similar haha.
Don't know on that, I just know I have held the RE and own some trango, didn't have a chance to hold them side by side to compare for minor differences. Wouldn't be surprised. Or could be they just bought the old design when trango updated, don't know how long RE or new trangos have been around. I'd say you got a good deal anyways on cams that work just fine :). Granted there are others higher on my list.

Happy climin'
AL
Robert 560 · · The Land of the Lost · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 570

Nice score Chase, They will work just fine for now. As you get more proficient you'll probably want to upgrade. Just make SURE you check the slings really well before using them if you have any doubt get them re-slung. It only cost about $5 each and is well worth the piece of mind you get from doing it.

Edit: They do look just like the Trango's I've got some you can compare them too if you want.

Tim M · · none · Joined Sep 2008 · Points: 293

looks like the beginning of a nice desert rack.

ps: i think wild country stopped making forged friends.

Chase Gee · · Wyoming/ Logan Utah · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 105
Timmamok wrote:looks like the beginning of a nice desert rack. ps: i think wild country stopped making forged friends.
Thanks I'm very excited to have some gear to stare at until I can actually get out and climb! The slings on my cams are perfect Robert, its my tricams i'm a bit nervous about can your resling them? and is it worth it or should i just buy new ones?
speaking of my goofy little rack. Did that slung Wallnut come in the set of the wired ones or was it an add on? just curious.

you can find forged friends in alot of places. Looked them up because I didn't know there were different friends. found them everywhere.
gearx.com/product_info.php?… these guys seem to be the cheapest. probably why they're almost out of stock.
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