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John Maurer
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Jul 25, 2008
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Denver, CO
· Joined Jun 2008
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The new issue of Rock&Ice has a picture of some kid climbing an 11c in BC and getting creative with the clip. Someone should let him know he doesn't have to die if he falls if he would only run the rope around his leg correctly. Interesting choice for a cover shot.
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John Maurer
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Aug 1, 2008
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Denver, CO
· Joined Jun 2008
· Points: 530
Looks like if he blows the clip he'll invert and go head-first into the rock.
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Manny Rangel
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Aug 2, 2008
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PAYSON
· Joined Jan 2006
· Points: 4,789
Bad fall potential but you never know, maybe he did it for the camera and feels comfy on the route. I just pictured the same thing, flipping headfirst into the wall below if he blew it. Scary.
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Ken Cangi
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Aug 3, 2008
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Eldorado Springs, CO
· Joined Jul 2005
· Points: 620
If he fell with his back still to the wall, and didn't get inverted before the rope became taught, I wouldn't even want to see the potential damage that the rope would do to his groin and torso.
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Tony B
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Aug 4, 2008
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Around Boulder, CO
· Joined Jan 2001
· Points: 24,665
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metrozen Geoffrion
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Aug 4, 2008
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2008
· Points: 235
Right there with you guys. The idea of it has been haunting me for three days.
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Mike
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Aug 4, 2008
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Phoenix
· Joined May 2006
· Points: 2,615
When I first saw the title of this thread I thought yet another person had covered the song "Spooky" by the Atlanta Rhythm Section, and clicked on it hoping to get a link to download the song. Oh well. Back on topic, the picture on the cover is indeed spooky, and it is silly & even borderline irresponsible of the mag to use it. That said, visually it is a stunning picture.
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Tradster
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Aug 4, 2008
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Phoenix, AZ
· Joined Nov 2007
· Points: 0
If he were to fall: major dental work or gene pool clean up.
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metrozen Geoffrion
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Aug 4, 2008
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Unknown Hometown
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· Points: 235
Anyone know if R&I has gotten any flak over this? I am sort of the side of calling it a tremendously poor choice for a cover shot, "creativity" aside. Lots of noobs get a big stoke off that mag, maybe one or two might get all monkey see, monkey do.
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Tony B
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Aug 4, 2008
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Around Boulder, CO
· Joined Jan 2001
· Points: 24,665
metrozen wrote: Lots of noobs get a big stoke off that mag, maybe one or two might get all monkey see, monkey do. Eh... if leaders are already aware of the potential problem, this picture won't risk making it seem OK. If they are unaware of the problem, they won't notice it anyway because it won't seem strange to them. Worst I see happening here is that this generates discussion and raises awareness. Best thing would be that R&I puts a note out in teh next mag about the danger and puts a note in the "tech tips" type section describing it... I'll alert Jeff Jackson to this page.
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Jeff Jackson
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Aug 5, 2008
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Unknown Hometown
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· Points: 10
Hi Folks, I'm the editor at Rock and Ice and I just wanted to weigh in on our cover choice for No. 171. I think all of your points are valid. The kid is gonna face plant if he blows it, or at least twang his crotch (or worse, ouch!)but it is undeniably a stunning and memorable image that takes text and looks great on the newsstand or coffee table. How do we balance aesthetics and our responsibility to present safe climbing practices? That's a tough one and I think you all are raising interesting points in this discussion. I'd argue that clipping is always risky, especially when you are at the second, or even third piece of pro. When you pull out slack, you're exposing yourself to a possible groundfall if you slip. What's imperative is finding a stance from which you won't fall and I think that's what Will is doing here. Though it looks sketchy to the observer, Will successfully made the clip and moved through the potentially dangerous situation in the same way we all expose ourselves to "potential" each time we tie into the sharp end. That said, I'm all about raising awareness. I edit the Letters section of the mag and I'd be happy to publish a critical letter pointing out the risk of Will's stance and a description of proper technique. Would somebody please write me a letter to publish? jjackson@bigstonepub.com Thanks for the feedback and for letting me chime in. Happy Climbing! Jeff Jackson
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metrozen Geoffrion
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Aug 5, 2008
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Unknown Hometown
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· Points: 235
Thanks for the comment, Jeff. It is a great photo, and it helps to know a little more about your decision to use it. You'll probably get more than a few letters from the MP crowd! -DG
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TBlom
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Aug 5, 2008
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Unknown Hometown
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· Points: 360
What we need are more solo photos!
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Buff Johnson
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Aug 5, 2008
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2005
· Points: 1,145
Caylor wasn't bad; but I was looking for stone nudes, Jeff, not stoned nudes.
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