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By DisturbingThePeace
From: Albuquerque, NM
Jul 14, 2008

Great topo! Isn't there an alternate start to the left for Hollywood Tim and Mad Dogs & Englishmen?

By Jason Hundhausen
From: Bozeman, MT
Jul 14, 2008

Thanks DTP. I think the first bolt of Hollywood Tim/Mad Dogs shown on the topo is new because I don't remember it being there a couple years ago (anybody know this for sure?). If it wasn't there, then it wouldn't make any difference if you started where the topo shows or at the start of the "unknown" route. In fact, this is exactly what I did this past weekend so my belayer - wearing sandals - could avoid getting bit by all the red ants at the base of Hollywood Tim, but even if you clip into the first bolt on the unknown route, you're looking at a grounder if you don't make it to the second. Now that there's a new bolt, the preferable way would be straight up.

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