So does Dave reach through with his left or slap right at this point? After all, since it's his route we should use his beta. ;-)

It's a free country but all those who dare doing it any other way are blasphemous infidels.

Isn't that Karl Hungus?

Nope. That's Dave Groth.

I'm pretty sure it's Karl Hungus.

It's definitely Dave Groth. Kris was climbing with him and took the picture.

I dunno John, looks an awful lot like Karl Hungus to me.