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By Paul-B
Mar 18, 2013
Flakes of Wrath

EricSchmidt wrote:
Give it a rest. The policy has been in place for at least 30 years... and people have been abusing it for at least 30 years. Yet it is still in place. Quit crying about what other people do and go tell your mommy that "it isnt fair". If REI has a problem with it they will change it.



What a surprise. This "moran" jumped in fray. I think this more or less proves that bearbreeder is a moron, as ES here is an advocate for all things stupid and argumentative.


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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Mar 18, 2013
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.

EricSchmidt wrote:
If REI has a problem with it they will change it.

They say the same about our government...


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By NorCalNomad
From San Francisco
Mar 18, 2013

REI gets less than 2% of their sales returned. They're aren't worried about it cutting into the bottom line.


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By bearbreeder
Mar 18, 2013

TheBirdman wrote:
I didn't say anything about me not liking REI's policy or me not wanting to shop there. I just said in my opinion, you're a morally pathetic person. I'm happy to pay the increased costs for legitimate users of the policy. The problem is it doesn't differentiate between decent people who respect and appreciate it and self centered abusers of the policy like you. My point is you can make all the justifications you want. You have to look yourself in the mirror and realize that you're taking advantage of others. If you want to hide behind your argument that REI's policy entitles you to only have to buy a product once because you can bring it back anytime it wears out, you want a new one, or whatever reason, that's your prerogative. My prerogative is to put you in the same category as those who abuse any social service. Again, just because something is allowed or you can get away with it doesn't mean you should. One last thing, if everyone was like you, the REI policy wouldn't exist. So be careful what you wish for when you tell other decent people who don't like your systemic abuse not to shop there because without them to foot the bill for your hustle and scam operation, you'd actually have to pay for your gear. Gasp!


Rei is a "social service" now ???

I wasnt aware that you TAX DOLLARS went to REI ... You should write your congressman about it rather than whine on MP

Dont shop there if u feel u are paying higher prices ... Or WRITE them as a member

Its that simple ;)


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By bearbreeder
Mar 18, 2013

Paul-B wrote:
What a surprise. This "moran" jumped in fray. I think this more or less proves that bearbreeder is a moron, as ES here is an advocate for all things stupid and argumentative.



Im not the one making comparisons to "abusing women" on this thread

Gotta go climb ... Its sunny today

You should try that sometime ;)


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By Nick Zmyewski
From Newark, Delaware
Mar 18, 2013
the frozen topout during a winter ascent

Great troll bearbreeder. Stop feeding him everyone!


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By TheBirdman
From Eldorado Springs, Colorado
Mar 18, 2013

1) I never said REI was a social service, I just said I put you in the same category as someone who abuses social service programs. It reminds me of the time Ole' Dirty Bastard from Wu-Tang pulled up to pick up his food stamps in a limo...

2) I'm not complaining about high prices at REI.

3) (And this is the only thing I've been trying to say the whole time which apparently I wasn't conveying clearly) Bearbreeder and anyone else who takes advantage of a cooperative is a scumbag.

Hopefully that's clear. I'm sure Bearbreeder will find a way to twist that statement into his standard, "Don't shop at REI" response, but again, just for clarity; the only message I am trying to convey is that I think you're a despicable and selfish human being.

I love REI and their return policy when legitimately used.

Birdman out.


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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Mar 18, 2013
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV

this thread is full of taco.


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By MTKirk
From Billings, MT
Mar 18, 2013
Me on Supercrack

As others have stated up thread, the OP should send the cam back to Black Diamond. Sure; they probably won't send you a new cam, and it's likely that they know how & why the cam lobes got bent and have nothing to learn from seeing your cam. BUT; maybe, just maybe, there is something wrong with your cam & others they manufactured about the same time, and finding out about it could save someone a grounder.

If they don't treat you nicely be sure to get all taco with them, either that or man up & lay down some serious hot dog!


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By EricSchmidt
Mar 19, 2013

Paul-B wrote:
What a surprise. This "moran" jumped in fray. I think this more or less proves that bearbreeder is a moron, as ES here is an advocate for all things stupid and argumentative.


hmmm well I was an employee at REI for over 5 years so what would I know.... Meanwhile you just continue to talk out of your ass and make asumptions.


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By Don LaMoureaux
From Denver, Co
Mar 29, 2013
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Another opinion (mine) on the REI debate: Returning the op's cam to Rei and expecting a new one is abuse of the policy - not that kipp.fo would do this - just saying. The cam worked but took a beating. Save it for show and tell, buy another and move on.


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Mar 29, 2013
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

Why would you return your awesomely fucked up cam that you can show chicks to embellish your "I ALMOST DIED!" story? That cam is a panty melter right there. Save it, brah.


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By bearbreeder
Apr 7, 2013

Jack Mullen wrote:
Bearbreeder- One request: Use less winky faces. I'm fairly certain there is not one post in this thread by you without one.


one request ... dont read my darn posts if you dont like it

its not my problem if someone cant stand it ;)

its not like its a nasty swear word =P


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By Bill Kirby
From Baltimore Maryland
Apr 9, 2013
Me eating a cliff bar walking back from Frankenstein Amphitheater

I just read all this and wow.. I know people like to be self righteous, heck I know I do but really abusing REI policies? Are you just trying to argue with beer breeder? You guys realize REI's sales were 1.9 billion last year? I really doubt the REI board's sitting around worrying about people returning their bent cams. That cam will be sold when it's time for the member's only used gear sale anyways.

REI's income was down 4% in 2012 to 29 million. Must have been returning that cam.

OP.. Sorry to be off topic but I just couldn't help it.

My advice is try REI. I own a block of Black Diamond and I don't need you lowering the price trying cheat BD out of a cam.


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By APBT1976
Apr 9, 2013
Black Dike 12/25/11

When Rei changes it's return policy i stop shopping at Rei. Selection at Rei kinda sucks so the return policy is really the only thing that drives me to purchase from them.


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