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Location: UT : Moab Area : Arches National Park : Arches NP - Anchor Replacem...
By: KCP When: Jan 31, 2007

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Comments: No offense, Andrew, but I think you missed my point.


Location: UT : Moab Area : Arches National Park : Arches NP - Anchor Replacem...
By: KCP When: Jan 31, 2007

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Comments: "Ken,

Thanks for trying to enlighten us."


You're welcome.


"1. You implied that what Dean did was no different than any of the first ascentionists that have placed anchors on a tower route in Arches and that they promoted themselves in the same fashion as Dean.

Wrong.

If that were true then the following would have happened after all of those other climbs.

a. they would have been the direct catalyst for climbing closures in the park

b. they would have drawn federal scrutiny... more >>


Location: UT : Moab Area : Arches National Park : Arches NP - Anchor Replacem...
By: KCP When: Jan 31, 2007

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Comments: Sam,

I should have been more specific when I said "It makes THOSE OF YOU who are doing it sound like a bunch of spoiled brats." You were not included in that statement. I was referring to the Dean bashers. They are doing nothing to help this situation.


Location: UT : Moab Area : Arches National Park : Arches NP - Anchor Replacem...
By: KCP When: Jan 31, 2007

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Comments: "local citizens as well as Utah Senator Orrin Hatch very publicly stated their anger."

With all due respect, what's your point? Here is a little light on where Mr. Hatch stands on environmental issues:

www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Orrin_Hatch_Environment.htm

As for the angry tourists, maybe they should take a few moments to view their effects on that landscape (indiscriminate trampling of vegetation, piles of dog shit, tossing food wrappers out of vehicle windows, etc., etc.). Lets no... more >>


Location: U.S. judge's ruling could e...
By: KCP When: Sep 26, 2006

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Comments: Grant Bryans wrote:

"if this is truly a public Forrest than everyone should have to pay to maintain it...EVEN if they choose and yes it is a choice not to use the Forrest...so if we make some sort of excise tax on the USFS we surely can make up for the lack of user fees...."

Some history: www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/mackintosh3/index.htm


Location: U.S. judge's ruling could e...
By: KCP When: Sep 24, 2006

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Comments: Alan Searcy Wrote:

"It's interesting that when we are taxed for the fire department to show up, they do and we don't have to buy an annual pass to get them to really come when there's a fire. I don't have to pay any police or swat team member a user fee when they respond to a call at my home or business. They are funded by taxes just like the NPS. If the cops need bigger guns, they don't charge me more, they budget for em with my tax money and buy them. I liken the bullshit park fees to buying ... more >>


Location: Via Ferrata - Utah Style
By: KCP When: Sep 18, 2006

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Comments: I don't believe that any rational person, after having climbed a Via Ferrata, is going to advocate setting them up on every cliff in the nation, nor will having done so inspire them to want trams and restaurants on every summit.

I do believe, however, that the average person, after having experienced it, will have a better understanding of why climbing and preservation are so important to those of us who climb on a regular basis. Better understanding and empathy by the general public for what ... more >>


Location: CO : Search Continues for missin...
By: KCP When: Sep 1, 2006

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Comments: Thanks for the link, Jo. The article describes the search as being concentrated around and throughout rocky areas, but it makes no mention of the creek. I am in Salt Lake, and I am not aware of the current water depth, although memory tells me that there are eddy pools in which a body could become lodged and hidden during this time of year.

Have the search parties scoured the creek?


Location: CO : Search Continues for missin...
By: KCP When: Sep 1, 2006

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Comments: Exactly where was the victim located when his partner left for help?


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: Jun 4, 2006

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Comments: Several of you are behaving poorly. The irony is that none or very few of you would ever have the guts to say half of this stuff to Dean's or my face - or anyone's, for that matter. You are cyber bullies, who are actually nothing more than intolerant cowards.

I am actually glad that you showed your true colors, because now the non-climbing (majority) of the community, who stumble onto these forums - because of all the press - will see how you behave. Your foul behavior is what will eventually ... more >>


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: Jun 3, 2006

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Comments: Phil,

I am glad that I've held my ground, not only because I am convinced that my position is sound, but also, because in forcing some of you to qualify your positions, you have shown your true colors, as well as the Swiss cheese that you call valid arguments.

Trying to intimidate me into going away is a clear example of that. If you don't like and/or agree with what I have to say, then behave like an adult and ignore me.

Your argument is weak, but your character is weaker.

KC


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: Jun 3, 2006

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Comments: George,

If you sincerely don't want to debate me, then don't quote me in a public forum, otherwise I will respond.

For better or worse, you need to take responsiblity for what you say in public.

Regards,

KC


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: Jun 3, 2006

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Comments: George,

Dean's account is the same old tale - to you - because it is not what you want to hear.

Have you ever been on top of DA, George? Do you know, with certainty, that Dean is responsible for the grooves in question? Where is your evidence to support your accusations?

As for your comment about two innocent climbers communicating with nature. That is exactly what they are, until you can prove that they committed a crime, which is highly unlikely. Here is a fact, George: NPS has already adm... more >>


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: Jun 3, 2006

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Comments: Phil,

Minority opinion among who - a few dozen climbers? You really should step back a bit further.

I have no interest in being a politically correct spokesman for the minority. I am a climber, and I am embarrassed by the behavior of other climbers, who have no problem jumping to conclusions, at the expense of others.

You don't have to like or agree with what I have to say, although you should at least consider the validity of my point of view, because it represents a larger audience than one... more >>


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: Jun 3, 2006

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Comments: Lowell Skoog wrote: "The why and the law don't matter here. Symbolism matters."

Hand over the chillum. You've had enough.

So what you're telling me is that you are trying to trash a fellow climber's reputation over symbolism? You're a first-rate kinda guy, Lowell.


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: Jun 2, 2006

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Comments: Ron,

I'm as calm as the Pope at a funeral.

Try reading the message, instead of reading into it.


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: Jun 2, 2006

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Comments: Deanís NPR discussion has reaffirmed my position on the Delicate Arch matter. It also reaffirms my belief that climbers, in general, are not as informed as we should be, regarding the environments in which we indulge our sense of adventure. What has surprised and disturbed me, however, is how premature so many members of the climbing community were in trying to convict and defame one of their peers, without first procuring the requisite facts and hearing all sides of the story.

I want to try to... more >>


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: Jun 1, 2006

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Comments: There is no fame in being quoted out of context.


These quotes basically sum it up for me:

- "Arches officials have decided Potter's climb was not illegal, due to vaguely worded regulations that have since been made crystal clear to prohibit any more arch climbs."

- "The voice of the community is important to me," he said. "My views are not concrete. I'm open to change." In a private e-mail exchange among colleagues, Potter also said climbing the arch represented his "freedom of expression... more >>


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: May 28, 2006

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Comments: Lowell,

Now you are building a straw man. Nice try, but the "big" difference is that the act, per se, of releasing the worm was the crime, regardless of the perpetrator's impetous.

That Dean has broken a law has not been established, and no charges have been filed. The use of white chalk seems to have been an infraction of stated rules, although I highly doubt that such an act, per se, would be worthy of all of this attention.

Phil is now playing a similiar game, by saying that his relative ... more >>


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: May 27, 2006

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Comments: Phil,

Let's start with this one:

Phil Broscovak wrote: "The next time a Red Rocks park rangeracts like a power tripping Nazi to me I will say THANK YOU DEAN!"

Sounds like a clear conviction of guilt to me.

Then there is this one:

Phil Broscovak wrote: "A spiritual adventure my ass. This was a photo-op and a shameless act of self agrandizment! Dean, you are a great climber why do you have to blow your load for 45 feet of bullshit??

So not only are you chastising Dean for poaching this lan... more >>


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: May 26, 2006

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Comments: Brad,

I am ignorant about none of it. You clearly aren't hearing what I've said.

The sensitive relationship between the NPS and the climbing community, in the context in which some of you are portraying it, is a farce. I contend that the rules were nebulous, at best, and that they needed to be clarified. Now they are.

After three decades in this sport, as guide, instructor, sponsored climber, and professional sports photographer, I believe that I have a pretty clear understanding of how sens... more >>


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: May 25, 2006

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Comments: Bruce,

Whether or not you realize it, you are now getting to the heart of the real issue. This has been NPS's attitude the entire time, and it was only a matter of time and an excuse - any excuse - to implement their real agenda.

This is why I said that we should be directing our attention on them -
not Dean. He is a very small fish in the scheme of things. Making him a scapegoat is a complete waste of time.

Acquiescing to NPS's whims will do little toward preserving climber access. The cli... more >>


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: KCP When: May 25, 2006

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Comments: Brad,

If that is the most ignorant thing that you have read online, then you clearly haven't read much at all.

Can you prove that he didn't receive permission from a park official? Moreover, please show us where he has officially been indicted of a crime. Otherwise, yours is the ignorant statement.

His action is not automatically wrong because some climbers and park officials aren't happy with it.

This topic is beat. Go climb, and get over it. All that has happened is that DA is now officia... more >>


Location: UT : Wasatch Range : Big Cottonwood Canyon : Salt Lake Slips : Accident at the Slips
By: KCP When: May 24, 2006

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Comments: To Matt,

The solution is simple. Submit a proposal to the park service. Afterall, managing that land is their responsibility, which makes them directly culpable for everything that happens withing its boundaries.

To Rebecca,

You post is refreshing. Thank you.


Location: UT : Wasatch Range : Big Cottonwood Canyon : Salt Lake Slips : Accident at the Slips
By: KCP When: May 24, 2006

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Comments: Thanks, John, for coming to the understanding of how serious this situation is.

Per my last Email response to you, I am posting our conversation here. It is not my intention to embarrass you, nor should you feel that way. My reason for posting them is that your initial feelings are probably consistent with those of some of the other members here, who aren't yet seeing the big picture. My hope is that the progression of our conversation will help to enlighten those individuals. Again, thank you ... more >>


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