glad to see a repeat of this route. And it seems that you enjoyed the climbing as much as I did, and hated the chaparral equally so. Though, we did find a route around the brush that worked pretty well after going up there a few times.
the sandbag...sorry for that...but not really. I do a lot of my climbing at Granite Mountain, the home place of Syndicatico Granitica, who were also the pioneers of the Hualapai wall, so I thought it would be appropriate for grades to reflect their ra... more >>
Comments: Thanks for reporting this. I had mentioned such a route in a discussion on the main page that climbs up the left side of the column if you cross over to it after finishing the hand crack on Experimental Forrest. We had come into it higher so never saw or even considered how precariously balanced that pillar is. I'll delete my mentioning of such a route and let your warning stand alone.
Comments: I wandered through the Needles with my dog last summer from Molas Pass, up into Vestal and Storm King Basins then south by Lake Silex, staying as high as I could and scrambling on peaks here and there. I dropped into the head of Noname Creek from a notch just north of Jagged Peak and looked at these peaks. I couldn't help but think that the cluster of numbered and named peaks around the heads of Noname and Ruby basins are some of the most spectacular, jagged, high elevation rock formations in ... more >>
Comments: We walked off to the climbers left which involved dropping down a steep gully, traversing a ledge, and stepping out on an intense catwalk (30/40ft long chocked boulder) that had lots of air underneath it. A truly remarkable feature, this "catwalk" allowed a crossing to a notch behind the "Angel" spire, then more descending down another steep gully, finishing out to the climber's left of the Eagles Nest. It was a journey.
If you walk off to climbers right you might be able to scramble down to ... more >>
Comments: I am aware that this place has a long history. There is evidence of that in several places around the canyon. Thanks for directing me to that other conversation. I appreciate what you said there. I posted this page because I am of the same mind-set as you. We all could benefit from seeing this place become more established as a local climbing resource. I even wanted to see routes put up in the exact style in which you are doing them and know that I will never do it myself. Thanks for your... more >>
Comments: Wow...seems like there's some stoke about this place here. I was the one who initially posted this page, woops. Hope it was a good idea.
I have known that it was amazing since the first time I ever laid eyes on it. I got lost up there on the forest roads years ago, and ended up at this glorious basalt canyon. I took some friends up there that fall and we were scared, but some dabbling showed us that the climbing there can be awesome.
I'm pretty sure there are over 100 routes here, maybe eve... more >>
Comments: The probable first ascensionists and namers of 'Creationism' were 2 Prescott Cimbers named Kevin Eastman and Macrae(who's last name I forget). But they put it up sometime in 2008/2009 after a series of attempts. It is, as you say, to the right of 'Four Flying Apaches. I think the beginning of the route may be less than 200yds, and more like a rope-length to the right of "Apaches"...After failing to accurately choose the proper first pitch (we were definitely too far right) I think it is eithe... more >>
Comments: Is this the one that is just climber's left of White Wedding? The description for that is really clear. It is directly across from Ultimate Dihedral.
I was wondering if a more clear description for the whereabouts of Teddybear's picnic could be posted here. It seems to me like there is an East and a West facing wall to Pumphouse wash, more than a South or North.
I climbed a 5.8/9 today that is just left of White Wedding. On the East facing wall (West side). Suprisingly great route reall... more >>
Comments: yes this is the same Hualupai Wall above the old mine. I have read that it is a gneissic formation, but it does feel like quartzite in places. I'm not a geologist, but maybe there's some of both present... if that is possible. It seems that way because in places it seems about as good as high quality quartzite can be, and in other places it seems very chossy and dangerous.
I would like to see that old topo.
I have talked to David Lovejoy about it, and others in my crew are close with Rusty ... more >>