Comments: Did the route 09/05: no pin on the crux and very difficult to place pro: kind of run out. I think Ed Webster is right, but I'm not bold and I liked to find the bolt. After the liebacking it is possible to put some pro: not a very runout route. Very good.
Comments: I did the route this summer and found it a good 5.8 with a 5.9 move at the top of pitch one and another at the of with the scary bolt on pitch 2. I had a camalot n° 4 and i was unable to back up the bolt: need number 5. I thought it was much easier and more sustained than Kor-Ingalls, and also much much better. I'd give this route a good 5.9 rating and kor-ingalls a sandbag 5.9...