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Last Visit: Sep 29, 2008
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Contributed Routes

Name Rating Type Location  Useful To  Date

Color Blind

5.12a

Sport, 1 pitch

CO : San Luis Valley : ... : Penitente - Entrance Area

Jan 1, 2002

Kathy's Corner

5.10a R

Trad, 1 pitch, 70 feet

CO : Gunnison : ... : The Upper Wall

Jun 1, 2001

Contributed Areas

Name Location  Useful To  Date

Leap of Faith area

CO : Gunnison : Hartman Rocks

Sep 18, 2003

Rosy Lane

CO : Gunnison : Taylor Canyon

Sep 18, 2003

North Bank

CO : Gunnison : Taylor Canyon

1 person

Sep 18, 2003

Second Buttress

CO : Gunnison : Taylor Canyon

Sep 18, 2003

First Buttress

CO : Gunnison : Taylor Canyon

Sep 18, 2003

Left Hand

CO : Gunnison : Taylor Canyon

Sep 18, 2003

Sun Deck

CO : Gunnison : ... : First Buttress

Sep 18, 2003

Taylor Canyon

CO : Gunnison

Sep 17, 2003

Contributed Photos

Photo Caption Location  Great Image  Date
(1) Tourist Attraction<br />(2) Hurtin for Certain<br />(3) Left Hand Mantel<br />(4) Awkward and Wide<br />(5) Crescent Crack<br />(6) Jackel<br />(7) Inner Space<br />(8) Cake Walk<br />(9) Zig Zag<br />(10) Bourbon Street<br />(11) On The Wagon<br />(12) Whiskey Crack<br />(13) Oh Mama Mama<br />(14) Welcome to China<br />(15) Double Time at Sues's

(1) Tourist Attraction(2) Hurtin for Certain(3) Left Hand Mantel(4) Awkward and Wide(5) Crescent Crack(6) Jackel(7) Inner Space(8) Cake Walk(9) Zig Zag(10) Bourbon Street(11) On The Wagon(12) Whiskey

CO : Gunnison : ... : Sun Deck

Jul 2, 2008

Last week at Spaghetti Western.  mmmmm

Last week at Spaghetti Western. mmmmm

UT : Moab Area : ... : Spaghetti Western (5.11+)

4 people

Oct 3, 2003

Contributed Comments

 

Location: U.S. judge's ruling could e...
By: Kirk Woerner When: Oct 4, 2006

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Comments: I thought you were saying two things

1) That the constitutional stuff Brad cited had anything to do with the 16th amendment.
I clarified it because he was referring to article 1, not the 16th amendment. And article 1 says congress can tax for the welfare of the US as long as it's uniform across the US. This means, as you suggested and the court found, that the fees are unconstitutional.

2) That you were saying US parks are unconstitutional based on the definition of "welfare".
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Location: U.S. judge's ruling could e...
By: Kirk Woerner When: Oct 4, 2006

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Comments: Section 8 of Article I defines what congress can do. The first entry is...

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"

The 16th amendment was in response to a court finding that the "Income Tax" is not constitutional and is not in question here.

The questi... more >>


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: Kirk Woerner When: May 12, 2006

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Comments: "These closures are based upon a determination that such action is necessary for the maintenance of public health and safety, protection of environmental or scenic values, protection of natural resources and avoidance of conflict among visitor use activities."

Jeff Barnow was the only one to question the closures based on this statement and to notice that there is very little good reason to stop people from free-soloing there.

From reading his quotes, Dean didn't "know" he was breaking the re... more >>


Location: CO : Boulder : Eldorado Canyon SP : Warning: The rappel tree on...
By: Kirk Woerner When: Apr 29, 2006

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Comments: I'm for the lower anchors with one worry. I haven't done the down-climb shown in the other picture, and I suspect few other than the proposers have either. I know the down-climb using the tree is ONLY reasonable because the tree is there. It would be vertical AND exposed if it weren't.

The question for me really becomes "Is the downclimb to the left considerably easier than the one by the tree?" If that downclimb were PERFECTLY EASY, then I see no advantage, and some disadvantage, to a highe... more >>


Location: UT : Moab Area : Potash Road : Wall Street : El Cracko Diablo (5.10a) : Photo
By: Kirk Woerner When: Mar 24, 2006

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Comments: You are SO my hero Jackie!


Location: CO : Bush Administration Land Sa...
By: Kirk Woerner When: Mar 6, 2006

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Comments: I also will put my money where my mouth is and donate, as I have in the past. Does that mean it's OK for me to complain now about the fact that some short sighted twit is selling off the countries public land cheap to his buddies so he can also lower their tax bills and provide convenient justification for the action?


Location: CO : Boulder : Eldorado Canyon SP : The Bastille : The Bastille - W Face : Breakfast in Bed (5.8)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Nov 4, 2005

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Comments: I agree with Jayer and others. While this is a good route [fairly] rated, it would be (is?) spooky off the ground for a beginning 5.8 leader.


Location: CO : Boulder : Eldorado Canyon SP : Redgarden Wall : Redgarden - Tower One : The Yellow Spur (5.9)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Oct 9, 2005

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Comments: "The belay below the pin ladder always seemed bomber to me."

I just did this (finally) for the first time. I also noticed the belay just below the crux pitch had slightly suspect rock. I think it's because we belayed too high. We started the the crux pitch by immediatly traversing hard right.

You can get a lot of gear there, but it's all based on one, fitted block about two feet by three feet that you sit on. It's unclear what is happening with it because it's fitted very well but on a sl... more >>


Location: CO : Golden : Clear Creek Canyon : Little Eiger : Persistent Vegetative State (5.10b)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jul 12, 2005

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Comments: Fair enough. Thanks for the route.


Location: CO : Golden : Clear Creek Canyon : Little Eiger : Persistent Vegetative State (5.10b)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jul 11, 2005

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Comments: So, lemme get this straight. You have for years wondered why such an obvious line had never been bolted, you investigated and found clear evidence of prior ascent, and then rather than investigate and maybe get permission from the FA, you assumed that someone just didn't finish what they were doing and so bolted it up? Does this strike anyone else as odd?


Location: CO : Boulder : Eldorado Canyon SP : The West Ridge : West Ridge - top to Xanadu : Chockstone (5.10a)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jul 1, 2005

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Comments: "Ron, you are exactly right. These anchors should not have been placed to begin with - they are convenience anchors."

The anchors on Tagger at least saves the tree and are justifiable on that basis. The others might not make it through the revew process if they were to be added now since there are gear options.

In the case of Chockstone, this would just be nothing but convenience. The "second" pitch is easier even. Also, putting a bolt on Aerospace would be a travesty. It's scary, but that... more >>


Location: CO : Caņon City : Shelf Road : Cactus Cliff : Almost Gothic (5.11d)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jan 6, 2005

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Comments: R Thompson says: Consensus grade in its current state (who knows if more holds will break making it even harder) is 12b/c, which I suspect explains the notable difference in diffiuclty between the two routes. OMG, I'm so glad someone said this. I thought that route was harder than 12a. Did the holds break on the face at the very top?


Location: CO : Boulder : Boulder Canyon : Lower Dream Canyon : Plotinus Wall : ... : Sleepless in Boulder (5.11a/b)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jan 6, 2005

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Comments: Sort of too bad. That route was nicknamed the guillotine :)


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