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Location: UT : Moab Area : River Road : Lighthouse Tower : Poseidon Adventure (5.10 R)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jun 29, 2013

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Comments: The proposal was smart, the method was not :-)


Location: UT : Moab Area : River Road : Lighthouse Tower : Poseidon Adventure (5.10 R)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Mar 24, 2013

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Comments: I attempted this climb with a wedding ring hanging from a biner. The idea was to ask my then girlfriend to marry me at the top. I did not make it... she said yes anyway :) I suppose I must go back and do this climb sometime.


Location: CO : Boulder : Boulder Canyon : Across from The Bihedral ak...
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jul 2, 2012

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Comments: I agree with Mark. The naming and all the snarky comments in the DESCRIPTIONS of these climbs seriously gets in the way of figuring out what you're on.


Location: CO : Boulder : Eldorado Canyon SP : The West Ridge : West Ridge - part D - Xanad... : Terminal Velocity (5.11b/c)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Aug 3, 2010

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Comments: It's funny how many different opinions there are about what's hard on this route and why. I'm tall, so although the bottom had worse protection (kind of crappy rock), I reached up high and just got a left hand that I bet others would have to climb to. That would be dangerous (R not X) in my opinion. I felt like my height actually hurt in the corner above, because although I could reach things (like the final finger lock) easier, my stem has to be way wider or farther down. The bulge on the l... more >>


Location: CO : Boulder : Eldorado Canyon SP : Redgarden Wall : Redgarden - Roof Routes : Kloeberdanz (5.11c R)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Aug 3, 2010

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Comments: Saying "Reach and forearms are the keys to this 3-move wonder." is an understatement. A very short, powerful reachy crux.


Location: U.S. judge's ruling could e...
By: Kirk Woerner When: Oct 4, 2006

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Comments: I thought you were saying two things

1) That the constitutional stuff Brad cited had anything to do with the 16th amendment.
I clarified it because he was referring to article 1, not the 16th amendment. And article 1 says congress can tax for the welfare of the US as long as it's uniform across the US. This means, as you suggested and the court found, that the fees are unconstitutional.

2) That you were saying US parks are unconstitutional based on the definition of "welfare".
I repl... more >>


Location: U.S. judge's ruling could e...
By: Kirk Woerner When: Oct 4, 2006

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Comments: Section 8 of Article I defines what congress can do. The first entry is...

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"

The 16th amendment was in response to a court finding that the "Income Tax" is not constitutional and is not in question here.

The questi... more >>


Location: Delicate Arch Climbed!
By: Kirk Woerner When: May 12, 2006

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Comments: "These closures are based upon a determination that such action is necessary for the maintenance of public health and safety, protection of environmental or scenic values, protection of natural resources and avoidance of conflict among visitor use activities."

Jeff Barnow was the only one to question the closures based on this statement and to notice that there is very little good reason to stop people from free-soloing there.

From reading his quotes, Dean didn't "know" he was breaking the re... more >>


Location: CO : Boulder : Eldorado Canyon SP : Warning: The rappel tree on...
By: Kirk Woerner When: Apr 29, 2006

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Comments: I'm for the lower anchors with one worry. I haven't done the down-climb shown in the other picture, and I suspect few other than the proposers have either. I know the down-climb using the tree is ONLY reasonable because the tree is there. It would be vertical AND exposed if it weren't.

The question for me really becomes "Is the downclimb to the left considerably easier than the one by the tree?" If that downclimb were PERFECTLY EASY, then I see no advantage, and some disadvantage, to a highe... more >>


Location: UT : Moab Area : Potash Road : Wall Street : El Cracko Diablo (5.10a) : Photo
By: Kirk Woerner When: Mar 24, 2006

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Comments: You are SO my hero Jackie!


Location: CO : Bush Administration Land Sa...
By: Kirk Woerner When: Mar 6, 2006

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Comments: I also will put my money where my mouth is and donate, as I have in the past. Does that mean it's OK for me to complain now about the fact that some short sighted twit is selling off the countries public land cheap to his buddies so he can also lower their tax bills and provide convenient justification for the action?


Location: CO : Boulder : Eldorado Canyon SP : The Bastille : The Bastille - W Face : Breakfast in Bed (5.8)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Nov 4, 2005

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Comments: I agree with Jayer and others. While this is a good route [fairly] rated, it would be (is?) spooky off the ground for a beginning 5.8 leader.


Location: CO : Boulder : Eldorado Canyon SP : Redgarden Wall : Redgarden - Tower One : The Yellow Spur (5.9)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Oct 9, 2005

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Comments: "The belay below the pin ladder always seemed bomber to me."

I just did this (finally) for the first time. I also noticed the belay just below the crux pitch had slightly suspect rock. I think it's because we belayed too high. We started the the crux pitch by immediatly traversing hard right.

You can get a lot of gear there, but it's all based on one, fitted block about two feet by three feet that you sit on. It's unclear what is happening with it because it's fitted very well but on a sl... more >>


Location: CO : Golden : Clear Creek Canyon : Little Eiger : Persistent Vegetative State (5.10b)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jul 12, 2005

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Comments: Fair enough. Thanks for the route.


Location: CO : Golden : Clear Creek Canyon : Little Eiger : Persistent Vegetative State (5.10b)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jul 11, 2005

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Comments: So, lemme get this straight. You have for years wondered why such an obvious line had never been bolted, you investigated and found clear evidence of prior ascent, and then rather than investigate and maybe get permission from the FA, you assumed that someone just didn't finish what they were doing and so bolted it up? Does this strike anyone else as odd?


Location: CO : Boulder : Eldorado Canyon SP : The West Ridge : West Ridge - part E - top t... : Chockstone (5.10a)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jul 1, 2005

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Comments: "Ron, you are exactly right. These anchors should not have been placed to begin with - they are convenience anchors."

The anchors on Tagger at least saves the tree and are justifiable on that basis. The others might not make it through the revew process if they were to be added now since there are gear options.

In the case of Chockstone, this would just be nothing but convenience. The "second" pitch is easier even. Also, putting a bolt on Aerospace would be a travesty. It's scary, but that... more >>


Location: CO : Canon City : Shelf Road : Cactus Cliff : Almost Gothic (5.11d)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jan 6, 2005

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Comments: R Thompson says: Consensus grade in its current state (who knows if more holds will break making it even harder) is 12b/c, which I suspect explains the notable difference in diffiuclty between the two routes. OMG, I'm so glad someone said this. I thought that route was harder than 12a. Did the holds break on the face at the very top?


Location: CO : Boulder : Boulder Canyon : Lower Dream Canyon : Plotinus Wall : ... : Sleepless in Boulder (5.11a/b)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jan 6, 2005

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Comments: Sort of too bad. That route was nicknamed the guillotine :)


Location: CO : Canon City : Shelf Road : Cactus Cliff : Puff Daddy (5.11d)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jan 1, 2005

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Comments: Awesome route. Not 11d IMO. Whatever it is, the crux is short (right off the ledge). Once you get the hand jam on the left it's over. Use hands in the right order, and stem high. But it IS crack climbing at Shelf


Location: CO : Canon City : Shelf Road : Cactus Cliff : Whiteman's Burden (5.11c)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Jan 1, 2005

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Comments: Thanks Bob. Great climb!


Location: CO : Boulder : Boulder Canyon : Lower Dream Canyon : Plotinus Wall : ... : Boulder Quartz System (5.12a)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Nov 15, 2004

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Comments: I found the clip right after getting out of the quartz to be really difficult and tenuous. Maybe I was clipping from the wrong stance, but it just seemed like there was one good edge off to the left you use to get out of the crack, and then a dicey stance to clip from... It'll go soon (I hate having to always say that :)


Location: CO : Boulder : Boulder Canyon : Lower Dream Canyon : Plotinus Wall : ... : Rama (5.11a)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Nov 15, 2004

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Comments: I stayed in the corner and stemmed all the way up. Seemed like one dicey move to get to the last bolt but it wasn't too bad. Above, I used one #1 Camalot and a gray Micro Camalot in the finger crack (.5?) My partner thought it was going to be a clip up and didn't bring any gear. She tied knots in slings and sent.


Location: CO : Boulder : Eldorado Canyon SP : The West Ridge : West Ridge - part D - Xanad... : Zip Code (5.11-)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Oct 25, 2004

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Comments: Hard crux to onsight at least for me. I tried to do it as described by Bob Rotert above (sort of layback on the good chalked hold in the crack and then right hand to slopey crap) but it just didn't work. Is the beta to just stem the whole way up or layback?


Location: UT : Moab Area : Island In The Sky : Moses : Primrose Dihedrals (5.11+)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Oct 5, 2004

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Comments: Mike,I met the guy who did this in Indian Creek this weekend. He made it seem like he just replaced bad gear (that he pulled pins out with his fingers). Sounds like maybe he did a bit more ??? Sorry to miss you guys out there.


Location: CO : Gunnison : Taylor Canyon : First Buttress : Baby Face / Middle Wall : Question of Balance (5.11)
By: Kirk Woerner When: Sep 27, 2004

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Comments: When doing the left variation (5.10+), I recall a green Alien fitting in a little slot right in the middle and up high. This gives some peace of mind for the final moves.


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