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Areas = 15
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Contributed Areas

Name Location Date

Camp Rock

CO : South Platte : Elevenmile Canyon

Nov 30, 2002

Contributed Photos

Photo Caption Location Date
Bill and Lance on lead training route

Bill and Lance on lead training route

CO : Colorado Springs : ... : South Side Topropes (5.6)

Sep 14, 2003

Just belay belay area for traverse up.

Just belay belay area for traverse up.

CO : South Platte : ... : Jolly Jugular (5.6)

Sep 7, 2003

Pitch one on lead.

Pitch one on lead.

CO : Colorado Springs : ... : The Army Route (5.5)

Sep 4, 2002

Contributed Comments

 

Location: CO : Canon City : Shelf Road : Sand Gulch : Contest Wall : Tinsel Town aka BR 2? (5.9)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Oct 12, 2013

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Comments: A Robertson route named "Tinsel Town."


Location: CO : Canon City : Shelf Road : Sand Gulch : Contest Wall : Spike aka BR 1 (5.9)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Oct 12, 2013

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Comments: A Robertson route named "Spike."


Location: CO : Canon City : Shelf Road : Cactus Cliff : Beef Cake Formula (5.8)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Apr 28, 2012

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Comments: Not sure if there are two routes here or a variation on one route. Beef Cake Formula as described in the route description is right of the bolts clipping left (have previously climbed on toprope). What I climbed today was a different line left of the bolts clipping right. Although they are just on opposite sides of the bolted flake, they climb like two distinctly different lines. I agree that the left line/route was a blast.


Location: CO : Canon City : Shelf Road : The Dark Side : Puddle Of Holes (5.10a R)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Jul 12, 2006

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Comments: Agree with Michael's comments on clipping second bolt. Advise being very solid at this grade before attempting this route or Shelf Road Virgin. My partner and I both passed on these routes today, because they are too near the top of our ability level at this time. If you blow it before the second clip, that ledge is going to ruin your day.


Location: CO : Colorado Springs : Garden of the Gods : Kindergarten Rock : East Face : Alligator Soup (5.9+)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Jan 1, 2005

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Comments: WARNING! As of today someone had removed the hangers from the anchors at the top of pitch two.


Location: CO : Colorado Springs : Garden of the Gods : Kindergarten Rock : East Face : Diesel and Dust (5.11)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Jan 1, 2005

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Comments: WARNING! As of today someone had removed the hangers from the anchors at the top of pitch two.


Location: CO : Colorado Springs : Garden of the Gods : Kindergarten Rock : East Face : New Era (5.7)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Jan 1, 2005

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Comments: On previously mentioned rappel above "Alligator Soup" today, discovered that all hangers from top of second pitch of both "Alligator Soup" and "Diesel and Dust" are no longer there. Bolts are still there but the hangers have been taken. So you must do a two rope rappel from the top to get to the anchors at the top of the first pitch. A single rope rappel from the top will get you nowhere but into trouble. Had not read Chris R.'s comment about two 60s getting you to the ground, so didn't try ... more >>


Location: CO : Colorado Springs : Garden of the Gods : Three Graces : The Window (5.2)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Aug 29, 2004

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Comments: Echo your sentiments Darin but need to make a correction to your comments. This route is on the north ridge. The fatality occured on the south ridge of the summit fin. To the best of my knowledge the south ridge is not documented as a route in any of the guide books. While "The Window Route" is indeed quite chossy, the south routes are even more so. I can not think of any rock in "The Garden" that is more fragile than the south ridges of "Three Graces". Mark, I never met you, but, like Dar... more >>


Location: CO : Colorado Springs : Garden of the Gods : South Gateway Rock : West Side : West Point Crack (5.8 R)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Jul 13, 2004

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Comments: On 07/9/04, Stewart Green and friends installed a three bolt anchor on the top of the pillar. So, the top of P2 is now safe to anchor into, and lower off of (with two ropes if you want to reach the ground). Thank you, Stewart, Steve, and Chris! However that pitch is still a squeeze chimney and if you're not o.k with that type of climbing, you're not going to like it no matter how safe the rap anchors are. Also, P1 and P2 are short enough to be combined as a single pitch if you're so inclined... more >>


Location: CO : Canon City : Shelf Road : Cactus Cliff : Don't Be Messin' With Ma Mo... (5.10d)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Jun 26, 2004

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Comments: The left variation of "Don't Be Messin' With Ma Moves" was put up by Bob Robertson and is named "Six More Bottles of Bosco". Bob called it a 5.10a and after climbing it twice, that sounds about right to me.


Location: CO : Canon City : Shelf Road : Cactus Cliff : Crynoid Corner (5.7)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Nov 17, 2003

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Comments: To whomever painted the warning at the start of Crynoid Corner about the large dangerously loose boulder on the route: "Thank you!!". The location and condition of that boulder was indeed eminently life threatening. To all others reading this: as of today that boulder has been removed. So, you may now disregard the warning at the base of this route, concerning that particular block. However, in the future other blocks on this route (as well as most other routes) will become dangerously loos... more >>


Location: CO : South Platte : Rampart Range Road : Parachute Rock
By: Bill Parmenter When: Jul 11, 2003

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Comments: Rap anchors have been installed at the top of P1 Pete n' Ben's, Alcove 5.9 Route, and Flake Route. This now make it possible to rap (not lower) off of these routes. With some traversing adjacent routes could also access these anchors (Here comes the preaching) DO NOT top rope directly off of these anchors. Attach your own gear to the anchors and top rope off of that. This is a remote area and if the rings get worn through, someone could get hurt or killed before they got replaced. Someone ha... more >>


Location: CO : Colorado Springs : Garden of the Gods : Kindergarten Rock : South Face : South Ridge (descent route) (5.0)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Jan 2, 2003

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Comments: Agree with Sean that the East ramp is the easiest way to begin the ascent if you want to climb this route. However, if you want to add a little interest to the start, the right facing crack just to the left (west) of the toprope routes is quite enjoyable. It can be well protected with stoppers. Small to Medium cams will also fit in a few places along the crack. I would guess that this pitch is about 5.6.


Location: CO : Colorado Springs : Garden of the Gods : Kindergarten Rock : East Face : New Era (5.7)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Jan 2, 2003

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Comments: Don't know if they were there when the comments began, but as of 12/31/02, there are double anchors at the top of the rock directly above both "Alligator Soup" and "Diesel and Dust". These can be accessed from the top of the route by walking South along the ridge to the large "V" in the formation. Both sets of anchors are about 10 feet below the path, so you have to look over the edge to locate them. Can't vouch for "Diesel and Dust" descent, but 3 rappels down "Alligator Soup" will get you to... more >>


Location: CO : Colorado Springs : North Cheyenne Canyon : The Pinnacle : The Army Route (5.5)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Sep 19, 2002

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Comments: Exercise caution on chossy section below roof on Pitch 3. There is at least one medium sized block that when weighted moved significantly. Suspect there are others. When this block separates it will be unpleasant for the climber, possibly worse for the belayer. Advise climbing solid rock to the left of this section then traversing right to the roof move. This approach is perhaps a bit more difficult technically but definitely safer. If you choose to ignore this and climb the chossy section, reme... more >>


Location: CO : South Platte : Elevenmile Canyon : Elevenmile Dome
By: Bill Parmenter When: Aug 30, 2002

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Comments: Be aware of communication concerns. Due to the river noise below it is difficult or impossible to hear each other on the routes that are longer than half a rope (80 feet) long. "The Overleaf", "Cheryl's Perils", "Moby Grape" and "Original Sin" are ones that alternate communication plans would be benificial. Consider rope tugs, pra-arranged non-verbal sequence of events, or two way radios on these routes, and possibly others if river flow is high.


Location: CO : South Platte : Elevenmile Canyon : Elevenmile Dome : Moby Grape (5.7)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Aug 28, 2002

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Comments: Agree with Les on the walk off. It is relatively low 5 grad traversing, but if you slip it's a potentialy fatal ride all the way to the deck. Would advise staying roped up and on belay until you reach the hike down on the nortwest side.


Location: CO : Colorado Springs : North Cheyenne Canyon : The Pinnacle : The Army Route (5.5)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Aug 13, 2002

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Comments: As well described in comments above, fixed protection is scarce at best. Single rebar eyebolt for P1 belay is 5 to 10 meters directly above double anchors for "Wartime". Can be suplemented with a #2 and #3 camalot to make a solid anchor. However to lower from this point you must either leave gear, lower to "Wartime" anchors, or rappel from the single eybolt (none of which should be considered acceptable options). Also, requires two ropes to rappel from this point. I would strong... more >>


Location: CO : Colorado Springs : Garden of the Gods : South Gateway Rock : West Side : West Point Crack (5.8 R)
By: Bill Parmenter When: Jul 13, 2002

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Comments: The first pitch of this route has 3 nice new bolted anchors and a pair of bolted anchors at the top. This now makes it a very popular route for someone to lead and thread and then be toproped by the rest of the party.


Contributed Forum Posts

Topic Title Forum Author Date
re: Bears at Shelf RoadColoradoBill ParmenterJun 1, 2008