Comments: I would consider myself to be a 5.11 climber that can occasionally get a 5.12. I always try to climb this when I am in the area as well as Chinese freedom. I think these two climbs are at the same level of difficulty with different emphasized styles. No matter the ratings, jump on the thing and have a blast.
Comments: talked to Dave last night about access at Grandad's: please keep a low profile, in other words: don't bring a large group to attract attention to yourself and continue to be considerate in order to keep climbing as a positive and long standing tradition for the area